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Kontakt 6.6 VST3 in VEP7
Last post Sun, Sep 18 2022 by Pauluz^, 10 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Jul 12 2021 13:32
by santamorphic
Joined on Wed, Jun 04 2008, Posts 182

Has anyone managed to get Kontakt 6.6 VST3 to scan and work in VEP7?

It's not seen by VEP here on Windows 10.

DAW Client: Cubase 12, Nuendo 12, Ableton Live 11, iMac Pro 10/20 Core, 64GB RAM
VEPro Server: Windows 10 Pro x64, 4/8 core, 256GB RAM, SSDs
Tags: Kontakt vst3
Posted on Mon, Jul 12 2021 15:32
by Bill
Joined on Fri, Sep 23 2005, Berkshires, MA, Posts 1182

VEP doesn't host VST3s at this point

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Posted on Mon, Jul 12 2021 15:40
by santamorphic
Joined on Wed, Jun 04 2008, Posts 182

Aha! That would explain it. Thanks Bill

DAW Client: Cubase 12, Nuendo 12, Ableton Live 11, iMac Pro 10/20 Core, 64GB RAM
VEPro Server: Windows 10 Pro x64, 4/8 core, 256GB RAM, SSDs
Posted on Fri, Jul 16 2021 18:32
by muziksculp
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, U.S.A., Posts 448

Hopefully VE-Pro 7 will be updated soon by VSL to support VST3 hosting. 

This is very overdue. VST3 is becoming the current standard. Especially with Kontakt 6.6 now running as a VST3 only, VST3 support by VE-Pro 7 is badly needed. 

Please VSL Development, update it so we can use VST3 instruments in VE-Pro 7. 

 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Posted on Sat, Jul 24 2021 18:00
by alt.dislocation
Joined on Sun, Jan 12 2014, Posts 5

Kontakt 6.6 isn't VST3 only.  The VST version of 6.6.0 still runs in VE Pro.

It is, however, a little ironic that VE Pro is available as a VST3, but doesn't support them.

Posted on Sat, Jul 24 2021 18:04
by muziksculp
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, U.S.A., Posts 448

Originally Posted by: kafka007 Go to Quoted Post

Kontakt 6.6 isn't VST3 only.  The VST version of 6.6.0 still runs in VE Pro.

Yes, that's right, but VST3 is becoming the current standard format. So, being able to host VST3 in VE-Pro 7 is an important feature that's missing. 

Thanks. 

Posted on Thu, May 19 2022 20:53
by Austin4098
Joined on Fri, Jun 29 2018, Posts 2

For those currently hosting VST Superior Drummer 3 in VE Pro 7.

Toontrack recently upgraded their EZdrummer 2 to EZdrummer 3. It is worthy of note that this upgrade is only available in VST3 format (and AAX & AU).

Toontrack have said that their Dev Team have moved from VST to VST3 for EZdrummer 3.

Whilst Toontrack will not commit themselves to an unambiguous statement. It is likely that any future upgrades to Superior Drummer 3 are likely to follow suit. A sure sign of things to come.

VSL; Has there been any real progress on the VE Pro 7 VST3 hosting front?

Thanks.

Posted on Sat, May 21 2022 04:48
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Posts 953

Originally Posted by: muziksculp Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: kafka007 Go to Quoted Post

Kontakt 6.6 isn't VST3 only.  The VST version of 6.6.0 still runs in VE Pro.

Yes, that's right, but VST3 is becoming the current standard format. So, being able to host VST3 in VE-Pro 7 is an important feature that's missing. 

Thanks. 

You should also be advised that the VST3 format has some design flaws that can come up related to midi and vst3 instruments.  A lot of people, including myself, will always use the VST2 version of any instrument when it is available.  Eventually we may have no choice but to use the flawed VST3 versions...but generally speaking we are not there yet.  For instrument use, you are better off using VST2.

The VST3 Api is considerably more complicated then VST2, so despite the fact that the VePro plugin comes in a VST3 version, the actual "hosting" of VST3 instruments is a completely different set of things to deal with and would probably require quite a re-architecture in VePro.  In short what I am saying is that its a small deal, to make a VST3 version of a plugin, but its a much bigger effort to convert a host such as VePro into being able to support hosting VST3.  I'm sure VSL will get there eventually...its all good, but in the meantime, you're actually better off using VST2 instruments anyway because of what I said in the first paragraph.

Posted on Mon, Jun 13 2022 18:21
by Austin4098
Joined on Fri, Jun 29 2018, Posts 2
I have some good news for those who might need to host VST3 plugins in VE Pro7.   I had tried to use Blue Cat Audio's Patchwork, but it was not 100% successful.   I tested DDMF Superplugin which I can confirm works 100% with VE Pro 7 on Windows platforms. There is a Mac version too.
  There is a Demo version available, for those who want to road-test it before buying, currently priced at £45.00 + VAT = £54.00   I tested it with Toontrack's eZdrummer 3 and iZotope's Neutron 4 with no issues.

 
DDMF Superplugin also has an added bonus, in that is capable of x2 x4 x8 and x16 oversampling for those who might need it to combat aliasing with non-linear processing.
 
More details here:
 
https://ddmf.eu/superplu...C%20of%20course%E2%80%A6).
Posted on Sun, Sep 18 2022 11:29
by Pauluz^
Joined on Fri, Apr 08 2022, Netherlands, Posts 1

Originally Posted by: santamorphic Go to Quoted Post

Has anyone managed to get Kontakt 6.6 VST3 to scan and work in VEP7?

It's not seen by VEP here on Windows 10.

Hi,

There are several ways to load a vst3 in a non vst3 supported host, for instance with Blue Cat's Patchwork Synth.
You load it as a VST-Plugin in VEP7, and there you can load your VST3..

Hope this will help..

Cheers!

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