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Synchron String and Smoother Legato Transitions + Cubase Pro
Last post Sat, Aug 14 2021 by erisno, 8 replies.
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Posted on Sat, May 15 2021 11:02
by Sam Haines Music
Joined on Mon, Jul 25 2016, Buckingham, PA, Posts 20

I am trying to smooth out my legato transitions so my phrases in a specific passage flow better. It's an aesthetic I've been trying to affect for some time now and I haven't come across any specific conversation on this topic. 

I am using Synchron String Pro + Elite - two fantastic libraries. The particular passage tempo is ~80bpm in 3/4 with eighth notes. I've used all combinations of the legato articulations from standard, expressive and agile. I've made sure my notes overlap to trigger the legato transitions. I've applied various velocity layers and am using expression as the primary volume control.

No matter what I do, the note transitions are emphasized. In my understanding and performance experience, true legato is a fluid note transition where the sound becomes the next pitch without accent. At least, that is the aesthetic I am attempting to reach. I've been all around the forum, on VI Control and Beat's site (which is awesome) and I haven't found the trick. 

Does anyone out there have any suggestions or has found a way to do this? I'd love to develop this skill. Thanks in advance!

blessings, Sam

Windows 10 / Cubase 11 Pro / VSL SSP + Elite on 1TB SSD / Ryzen 7 2700x / 32 GB Ram / Asus Prime x470

Samuel Haines
Posted on Sat, May 15 2021 12:17
by J.Dnp
Joined on Mon, Aug 24 2020, Sydney , Posts 18

Hi Sam,

sharing my approach on smoother attack legato line 

my preference approach is to turn off Vel.XF ( where it show red instead of blue ) and only adjusting expression 

my favourite patch is Regular vib -> slow Attack or Expressive 

and the trick is to play it really really softly ( Feather like ) and plays it slightly offbeat and let it flow 

hope it helps :D 

Cheer mate 

All the best 

Jack

Posted on Sat, May 15 2021 12:21
by J.Dnp
Joined on Mon, Aug 24 2020, Sydney , Posts 18

Legato AGILE ->auto speed ->Soft Attack works for me too 

 

cheers 

Posted on Sat, May 15 2021 16:06
by Sam Haines Music
Joined on Mon, Jul 25 2016, Buckingham, PA, Posts 20
Thank you, Jack, I’ll try that out.

Blessings.
Samuel Haines
Posted on Mon, May 17 2021 07:34
by erisno
Joined on Fri, Sep 16 2016, Slovakia, Posts 29

Hi Sam,

If you are using Synchron Strings Pro and the Elite Strings simultaneously, try increasing the humanize delay to create a smooth/slower legato. However, make sure that e.g. violins 1 from SYPro and violins 1 from SY Elite use different humanize curves. This way, the legato transition will not occur at the same time for both libraries, which leads to a smoother and slower legato transition.

Best,
Erik

Posted on Wed, May 19 2021 01:14
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1834

You may be interested in a feature called Legato Blur, assignable to CC as per the extent of it

MacBook Pro 16,1: 2.3 GHz 8-core i9
64GB 2667MHz DDR4
Mac OS 11.6.1
VE Pro 7.1056, Cubase Pro 11.0.0
Posted on Fri, Aug 13 2021 19:57
by Sam Haines Music
Joined on Mon, Jul 25 2016, Buckingham, PA, Posts 20

Erik,

Thank you for the tip. I'm enjoying SY Elite tremendously in my orchestral settings. The library is very flexible.

Best,

Sam

Samuel Haines
Posted on Sat, Aug 14 2021 11:31
by erisno
Joined on Fri, Sep 16 2016, Slovakia, Posts 29

Hi Sam,

I'm happy to help. I also love this library. I've been using it all the time.

I found out that If you want to smooth out the legato transition even more, try automating the attack (cc22).

All the best,
Erik

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