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Any plans for new VSL 'Strings' Libraries ?
Last post Sun, Feb 28 2010 by Sami, 62 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Feb 24 2010 17:50
by mike connelly
Joined on Wed, Apr 28 2004, Posts 260

I agree with that.  If VSL/MIR are really doing the most convincing mockups possible right now, it's not coming across in the demos I have heard.

And from what I've heard I'd also agree that the brass and wind instruments seem more convincing than the strings.

Posted on Thu, Feb 25 2010 07:56
by Sergino Futurino
Joined on Thu, Dec 18 2003, Italy, Posts 652

Jann wrote:

 

Sergino Futurino wrote:

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For a moment there I thought I read "I think that every man prefers a beautiful girl instead of the wife he got"...

 

 

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life

Never make a pretty woman your wife!

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Posted on Fri, Feb 26 2010 07:08
by Sami
Joined on Mon, Oct 06 2008, Irvine, CA. USA, Posts 17
I've used VSL Strings for almost 6 years now, up until the point I got LA Scoring Strings. Over the last few projects I found myself replacing my VSL strings completely, with the exception of sordinos and there legato articulation.

With that said, VSL Strings did there job exceptionally over the years, but until they offer proper divisi options I'll be with LASS.

Am alone on this one? Any LASS users on here?
Posted on Fri, Feb 26 2010 16:30
by cgernaey
Joined on Mon, Apr 04 2005, Detroit-Michigan, Posts 1062
Sami wrote:
I've used VSL Strings for almost 6 years now, up until the point I got LA Scoring Strings. Over the last few projects I found myself replacing my VSL strings completely, with the exception of sordinos and there legato articulation. With that said, VSL Strings did there job exceptionally over the years, but until they offer proper divisi options I'll be with LASS. Am alone on this one? Any LASS users on here?

I have actually considered buying them.  Do you find them easy to work with?  How do you find the sound quality of them compared to your current libraries?

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Posted on Fri, Feb 26 2010 16:57
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622

Sami wrote:
I've used VSL Strings for almost 6 years now
 

Hi Sami,

which VSL string products are referring to? I couldn't find any strings registered on your account.

best

Herb

Posted on Fri, Feb 26 2010 19:58
by Sami
Joined on Mon, Oct 06 2008, Irvine, CA. USA, Posts 17
To answer your question Inspector Gadget, I mean Herb, I'm part of a production company that own just about every significant sample library known to man, everything under my account is my own personal collection.

I don't want to say anymore about LASS without looking like I'm promoting there product on here, but I think I've made my point. There are plenty of reviews and demos out there, listen and compare for yourself.

Again, not to say VSL Strings aren't awesome.
Posted on Fri, Feb 26 2010 22:57
by julian
Joined on Fri, Jan 07 2005, UK, Posts 720

I suspect why Herb posted the question is that VSL instruments are licensed to individuals for use in their own compositions/productions.

So I guess it would be outside the scope of the licence for an individual to purchase a VSL licence then for other composer/engineers to use it even within the same production facility!

Which leads on to.... if you're using the VSL strings not licenced to you (maybe it's different if you're a programmer for a composer with a licence) then someone's not playing ball.

Julian

Posted on Fri, Feb 26 2010 23:18
by Sami
Joined on Mon, Oct 06 2008, Irvine, CA. USA, Posts 17
Indeed.
Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 01:20
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5722

"Indeed" - "sami"

What the hell is that supposed to mean?  That you stole the VSL library?  You must have, since by your posts you indicate you are a real jerk with no respect for your superiors. 

BTW, you do not know what the hell you are talking about.  The LASS may have better "auto-divisi" than VSL, but they don't compare to VSL in basic sound and musical quality at all.  So you can do divided but mediocre strings with that library.  go for it!

There was a guy on here previously who said concerning VSL solo strings -  "give us poorer sound quality but looped."  Which goes to show - along with your post  - that what Nietzsche predicted about the increasing democratization of society resulting in idiots being given equal voice to rulers and geniuses has already taken place - on the internet.  I congratulate you for your achievement in proving him right.

Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 01:53
by Sami
Joined on Mon, Oct 06 2008, Irvine, CA. USA, Posts 17
Lol dang this guy is sensitive.

First of all, go to my site www.adventmp.com and tell me if I look like I need to steal ANYTHING, let alone spend a few grand on a library. I simply wasn't willing to dignify either of Herb's or Julian's comments, with all due respect.

Second of all, your reference to democratization is remedial. I'm simply giving an opinion on a product, you can agree or disagree, why take it personal?

I'll reiterate; VSL Strings sound great, amazing, incredible... But I moved on to something new and in my opinion, better. Now whether it be from a technical or sonic stand point, is where we can talk. Because technically I think LASS is superior. Sonically, since that is completely subjective I can understand your disagreement.

I've only had a few posts on these forums and I'm already being called a jerk, unexpected from what I imagined would be an open and diverse community like VSL.

Anyway, if anyone would like to go back to the subject of strings, awesome. If anyone would like to talk about me some more, we can do that elsewhere, or even better, contact me directly.
Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 02:02
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5722
Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 02:21
by Sami
Joined on Mon, Oct 06 2008, Irvine, CA. USA, Posts 17
William wrote:

 You will not dignify the post by Herb - THE CREATOR OF VSL? 

You are the LOL. 

You have not moved on to something better - you have proved yourself to know nothing about sampling.  And also - you are almost certainly a shill for LASS.  What is it?  Are you trying to get a gig with them?  Probably.   Because I doubt you are the head of a major company, though you have the arrogance to insult one.  But anyone who prefers the LASS library to the VSL strings consisting in full array of Solo, Chamber, Orchestral and Appassionata is either 1) Brain-dead or 2) Shill.


Yeah OK.

And Herb, I'm probably one of your most original fans so I have all the respect for you. But when one's integrity is questioned on an open forum, I doubt there can be much of positivity in the response.

Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 03:47
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5722
Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 03:51
by Tripit
Joined on Thu, Jan 30 2003, Hollywood, Ca., Posts 350

William, you forget your meds or just having a bad day? I happen to prefer LASS to VSL for a number of things. Quite a few VSL users I know feel the same. Doesn't make VSL bad, just preferred in some situations. I still use VSL all the time, but I also use LASS. 

I guess that makes us all shills, because I don't think any of us are brain dead. Although sometimes I wonder if you are when you go off like that. 

Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 04:16
by Sami
Joined on Mon, Oct 06 2008, Irvine, CA. USA, Posts 17
Yeah the dude has issues, you'd think he created the library himself from sweat and tears.

So back to the subject, Tripit what would you want to see out of VSL Strings that would make it king?
Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 09:08
by Sergino Futurino
Joined on Thu, Dec 18 2003, Italy, Posts 652

 Sami, don't beat me, but I can't help finding mistakes and typos:

This the first sentence I read in your web site:

We are not afraid to harness this great stuido for unprecedented styles and quality of music.

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Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 10:31
by knievel
Joined on Thu, May 28 2009, Newcastle, England, Posts 80
Sami wrote:
Anyway, if anyone would like to go back to the subject of strings, awesome.

Well, here's my 2 pence [I'm from England!] for what it's worth...

Sami, when you say and believe that "...sonically, since that is completely subjective, I can understand your disagreement", then why even join in with the thread in the first place!

Of course people are going to disagree with you - they listned to all the demo's and found VSL to be the best to their ears, so if you come to a VSL forum, don't think they are gonna be talking about how amazing OTHER libraries are!  Big Smile

Personally, I'm looking to stay away from that 'Hollywood' film sound. I don't get paid for the things I compose, it's purely to compose pieces in a classical style and learn musical scoring and composition. After listening through all of the demo's I decided that VSL was the best sound for my needs. And I still  believe this 110%, to my ears they sound far and above other libraries.

And besides, I use Sibelius, which doesn't allow me to use divisi anyhoo!! Sad booohoo! Smile

Sami - you like the technical side of LASS and their sound, fab. I happen to prefer VSL, fab again.

Life is too short to be on forums arguing about this - get out there and get composing!!

x

Posted on Sat, Feb 27 2010 11:23
by Sami
Joined on Mon, Oct 06 2008, Irvine, CA. USA, Posts 17

Thanks for the heads up Sergino.

Knievel, like you said I was just putting in my two cents. Although I agree with you, I certainly didn't expect to have someone spaz out like william did. Guess VSL's quality created some die hard fans out there. I don't blame them. Let me add that I do get paid to score, it is my only job. I've had countless sessions at the studio with live strings, albeit smaller sections, so I have a pretty good idea what a section should sound like in a room, in the project, and in the final mix. I'm not going to come into these forums and risk sounding like a "shill" like spazoid said for no good reason. Ultimately VSL is my favorite library, VSL Appassionata Strings, Woodwinds and Brass are absolutely unmatched in my opinion.
Posted on Sun, Feb 28 2010 00:45
by The Minstrel
Joined on Fri, Oct 16 2009, Sweden, Posts 119

Jeez, this thread sure stirs up some hot and passionate feelings. I think someone needs to think twice before hitting the post-button...

Posted on Sun, Feb 28 2010 04:53
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5722

Sami wrote:
To answer your question Inspector Gadget, I mean Herb, I'm part of a production company that own just about every significant sample library known to man...    Let me add that I do get paid to score, it is my only job. I've had countless sessions at the studio with live strings, albeit smaller sections, so I have a pretty good idea what a section should sound like in a room, in the project, and in the final mix. I'm not going to come into these forums and risk sounding like a "shill" like spazoid said for no good reason.
 

Sir : 

You have insulted the owner of VSL, and myself.  I demand satisfaction.

I forthwith challenge you to a duel.

Name your weapon.  I assume you will use the feeble little limp pistols of LASS.  They suit your anatomy, I am sure, you sniveling hermaphrodite. I of course will take up the huge heavy artillery and nuclear weaponry of VSL strings which are far more appropriate to mine. 

You shall perform a MIDI rendition of a Bach Chorale.  Any of your choice.  I will do the same chorale, and both shall be posted here.  All are readily available on the internet for your filthy perusal, you slobbering dog.

I assure you, my good sir, you will be destroyed by my MIDI.  Your attempts at MIDI performance are most certainly comparable to the clumsy pawings of a pampered, powdered poodle at a toy keyboard.  You do not exist on the same dimensional plane as a true MIDI performer, but are kin to the vermin which crawl through the sewers of Paris or the sewage treatment plants of Reno (far worse).  I advise you to bow out of this duel immediately, by protesting that you are too busy with important scoring jobs, etc.  Then you will reveal yourself to be the wretched coward I say here and now that you are. 

HAVE AT YOU!

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