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Posted on Tue, Sep 17 2013 20:06
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

Dear VSL-Team,

when you Take a look at my Account, I think you agree I am a real fan of the whole Project; Especially as a non Pro Musician.

But after all the time I have certain wishes. Just take a Look ...

- Please offer a Vienna Key made of Steel. The Products are expensive but this plastic Key, which is breaking in 2 Parts after a while abselutely does not fit to what you offer.

- Vienna Suite: I just miss a very nice Transient Designer for all your percussive Products in the Collection.

- And finaly I want to compose im Vienna Ensemble 6 /Vienna Tracks/Vienna MIR Pro in 2014. I think everybody knows what ich mean by sayin "Vienna Tracks" ... a competitor for Cubase etc.

- And i also would Invest in: Dimension Wood and Dimension Brass 2 and Strings 2 hopefully Consordino.

Thats all.Wink Trank you for Reading.

BR Lars

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Fri, Sep 20 2013 10:59
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1582
LAJ wrote:

- Please offer a Vienna Key made of Steel. The Products are expensive but this plastic Key, which is breaking in 2 Parts after a while abselutely does not fit to what you offer.

 

If the key breaks it should be under warrenty as long as it isn't over two years old.  You just have to buy a new dongle every two years.

I would prefer to drop the dongle all together and go to an Internet streaming sytem where you could stream your samples from the Vienna Cloud.  The licensing options would be limitless as you could license say the entire cube with MIR for say a 6 month period and pay a fraction of the total cost because you're only licensing it for 6 months and not forever.  Also, you could license not only individual instruments but individual articulations. Then all you would need is a password (with special characters, upper lower case, numbers has to be 10 characters and you have to change it every three months or so).  Unfortunately, this is all science fiction right now because I don't think the streaming technology is up to par to handle something this ambitious yet.

LAJ wrote:

- Vienna Suite: I just miss a very nice Transient Designer for all your percussive Products in the Collection.

 

That's not a bad suggestion actually.  Of course it's not just for percussive products.  You could use it to give your overall mix a punchier sound.

LAJ wrote:

- And finaly I want to compose im Vienna Ensemble 6 /Vienna Tracks/Vienna MIR Pro in 2014. I think everybody knows what ich mean by sayin "Vienna Tracks" ... a competitor for Cubase etc.

- And i also would Invest in: Dimension Wood and Dimension Brass 2 and Strings 2 hopefully Consordino.

I'm sure something is in the works already although I thought I read something about Dimension Woods wasn't necessary not needed due to the quality of what's already available but I could be wrong on that oneHmm


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Fri, Sep 20 2013 11:24
by lafauna
Joined on Fri, Apr 01 2011, Posts 15
I' m missiong mono I/O for VEP
Posted on Fri, Sep 20 2013 17:12
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

Hi Jasensmith,

I think they will do the cloud system one day like Adobe did it. It makes sense. But Adobe made a BIG mistake. They annoyed many users by dropping the Package Products. So users can not choose anymore. That Force is the wrong way!

So I do Not agree in this completely. I want to own my Products. And I really hope that we will have the choice in the Future to BUY AND to RENT.

And yes I want Vienna TracksCool .. as soon as possible ... Can not wait to see it integrated in VE Pro (hopefully 6)!Smile

i think the release of Vienna Tracks will be the beginning of the biggest success periode of VSL. The only Danger I See is the Complete Price of all Software Packages. I own everything ... Even all roompacks, but I - as a Hobbyist - am a Little crazy Wink. No one arround can understand my passion for VSL and that I spend so much money. Big Smile

BR Lars

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Fri, Sep 20 2013 17:40
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

Oh before I forget: Please integrate Celemony's ARA Technology!Yes

Of some reason there are not many DAW Developers who have integrated this.

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Thu, Sep 26 2013 17:57
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

Ok, it is time for wishes again. 

I as a dimension string user would like to have second violins from other libraries.

So, please offer the Violins from Appassionata and Orchestral Strings as Single-Download-Sections. I would buy both. I don't need the rest of these Packages.

And I am still waiting for Library Updates especially for the Recorders. There are a few distored sounds on the Keyboard.

just an idea: ...

... I know this correcting - work eats time for so many Samples. So ... Maybe we could take actions if you allow us to change Samples by offering an Editor ... I really think this is another good idea to give the user a chance to get rid of these sounds until the Library Update arrives. This Editor should allow us to 1.) change Samples and 2.) to correct wrong tones, semitones on single keys and 3.) sometimes the Sound on a Key has a too powerful attack ... It sounds like BAM! when you play, so pleas allow us to Cut the attack on Single keys.

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Fri, Sep 27 2013 04:29
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2730

 

Quote:

I would prefer to drop the dongle all together and go to an Internet streaming sytem where you could stream your samples from the Vienna Cloud.  

Sorry it is not a very good idea, we are streaming form SSD, streaming from the Clouds is too slow.

What I will see as an acceptable solution is a license check every one, two or three month.

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Posted on Fri, Sep 27 2013 11:10
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1582
Cyril wrote:

streaming from the Clouds is too slow.

Cyril i must admit, I'm in complete awe.  Again you've stunned the audience with your amazing ability to point out the obviousCrying  Yes, Even the super servers that NASA uses couldn't handle the load that the heavy sample users would demand.  If you read my post a little further I also said, " this is all science fiction right now because I don't think the streaming technology is up to par to handle something this ambitious yet." 

However I'm glad you brought it up because recently I've been having some reservations about this Idea and I can't really make my mind up.  Even if the technology was available what would happen if VSL goes belly up.  How would I access what I paid for?  If I wanted to sell my VSL stuff how would that work out.  What if your streaming VSL from a cloud but you're also using another company's samples that streams from a hard drive.  Would there be conflicts?


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Fri, Sep 27 2013 11:14
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1582
LAJ wrote:

... I know this correcting - work eats time for so many Samples. So ... Maybe we could take actions if you allow us to change Samples by offering an Editor ... I really think this is another good idea to give the user a chance to get rid of these sounds until the Library Update arrives. This Editor should allow us to 1.) change Samples and 2.) to correct wrong tones, semitones on single keys and 3.) sometimes the Sound on a Key has a too powerful attack ... It sounds like BAM! when you play, so pleas allow us to Cut the attack on Single keys.

 

 

Maybe I'm wrong on this but can't you edit the samples with VI Pro like time stretching, for example.  Or is that VE Pro?

Where are you hearing "wrong tones?"  Which libraries?


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Fri, Sep 27 2013 17:36
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

Hi Jasen,

no, afaik time stretching is not made for only one Key on the Keyboard, but for all. If not, please tell me how you can use this only for one Key on the Keyboard.

here are a few examples ...

(all examples refer to Repitition 1 in the Vienna Inst. PRO Player).

1. Percussive Violin: For this check Dimension Violins / Player 1 - articulation SustainVi and Key A2 (and/or a half tone below) on the Keyboard. There's a too loud Start-Klick which does not fit in the context cause it is too loud. With an Editor I would cut it (but only on G#2 and A2)

2. Sounds which do not fit in the context: For this you can check Dimension Trumpets Preset 11PTr P1  Compact pro / articulation SustainVi and play C#2 and D2 and then E2 and F2 ... you will hear the differences in loudness. Here I would like to exchange the 2 soft tones with an Editor.

3. Sounds which are not in tune: this seems to be a Brass problem.

... test Flugelhorn and/or solo trumpet Bb ... and play:

a) Flugelhorn: articulation SustainVi ... play F3 on the Keyboard and you will hear that the tone does not start with an F, but a halftone below (sounds like Legato). Same with FortePiano C#3 and D3.

b) Trumpet Bb: Same issue like a) ... articulsations FortePiano or SFFZ ... play tones E3 and F3 

4.) Or as mentioned Recorders Alto ... G#2 and A2 ... but that was already a topic in another tread and was confirmed by other users.

I hope that helps to understand. But the focus on this thread is to find good solutions and 2 have good ideas. So let's not dicuss too much like in the "insurance thread".

BR Lars

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Sat, Sep 28 2013 00:32
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2730
LAJ wrote:

Hi Jasen,

no, afaik time stretching is not made for only one Key on the Keyboard, but for all. If not, please tell me how you can use this only for one Key on the Keyboard.

here are a few examples ...

(all examples refer to Repitition 1 in the Vienna Inst. PRO Player).

1. Percussive Violin: For this check Dimension Violins / Player 1 - articulation SustainVi and Key A2 (and/or a half tone below) on the Keyboard. There's a too loud Start-Klick which does not fit in the context cause it is too loud. With an Editor I would cut it (but only on G#2 and A2)

2. Sounds which do not fit in the context: For this you can check Dimension Trumpets Preset 11PTr P1  Compact pro / articulation SustainVi and play C#2 and D2 and then E2 and F2 ... you will hear the differences in loudness. Here I would like to exchange the 2 soft tones with an Editor.

3. Sounds which are not in tune: this seems to be a Brass problem.

... test Flugelhorn and/or solo trumpet Bb ... and play:

a) Flugelhorn: articulation SustainVi ... play F3 on the Keyboard and you will hear that the tone does not start with an F, but a halftone below (sounds like Legato). Same with FortePiano C#3 and D3.

b) Trumpet Bb: Same issue like a) ... articulsations FortePiano or SFFZ ... play tones E3 and F3 

4.) Or as mentioned Recorders Alto ... G#2 and A2 ... but that was already a topic in another tread and was confirmed by other users.

I hope that helps to understand. But the focus on this thread is to find good solutions and 2 have good ideas. So let's not dicuss too much like in the "insurance thread".

BR Lars

Hi Lars,

You should do a bug report at

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Posted on Mon, Sep 30 2013 16:53
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

Horror-Effects ...

i would like to have them for dimension strings and dimension wood. You can already create them by pitching each Player/Sound in another "direction". But what I still miss is the "UUUUuuuuuuuii - Horroreffect" - this cruel pitched sound (sorry, but I don't know the word for these effects Embarrassed ). This one can't be created by Manipulation in the VI Pro Player. (If someone did this with success, please answer and explain the way ... Yes )

Of course just a few Samples of that, not a whole Package and no layers. I think one length that can be stretched shorter would he enough.

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Sun, Sep 14 2014 15:07
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

I forgot something ...

PLEASE give us a dry/wet Button for parallele Compression. This Type of Compression is much nicer to real Instruments.

BR Lars

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Sat, Oct 04 2014 08:09
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

Please change the Name of Neuer Saal to Berio Saal, cause that is the official name since the Season 2009/2010.

Cool

ah ... before I forget ... Please give us a 3rd microphone for MIR.

Thanks.

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Fri, Jan 09 2015 00:01
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545

I have new wishes:

Boys Choir, Boys Solos and ... 

 

PLEASE MAKE THE DOWNLOADMANAGER MANAGING THE WHOLE PROCESS!

At the moment it is great that the Downloadmanager is loading all the Samples, but it would be much better if you could give a link to the manager to even install everything by itself. Otherwise you have to sit and wait for each Instrument.

BR Lars

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Sat, Jan 17 2015 10:32
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545
Hi,

There seems to be another Bug ... maybe someone else can take a Look to ...

Stopped Horns 4er Version

Take a Look at the Preset and Play Legato pLeg from F5 down to C5 (these Samples are hidden and have to be activated in Advanced Mode in Vi Pro)
The Bug: you will not hear anything playing from E5 to D5 ...
The Same Bug appears when you Play for example from F5 to H4

Please fix this.

Thanks.
Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Sun, Apr 05 2015 11:12
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545
Another wish from my side ...

Please allow us to put the Secondary Mic OFF in MIR X -Vienna Instruments .

Thanks.
Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Sun, Apr 05 2015 21:14
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8056

Originally Posted by: LAJ Go to Quoted Post

Another wish from my side ...

Please allow us to put the Secondary Mic OFF in MIR X -Vienna Instruments .

Thanks.

Thanks for your suggestion!

While this can be achieved easily in MIR Pro itself (... just switch off the Secondary Microphone), I can't see this happen anytime soon for MIRx. I know - never say never, but it would mean to re-export each and every IR-pair for each and every instrument, with an acoustic result which wasn't the one I was aiming for when creating MIRx' settings. It would make the handling of MIRx more complicated, and the size of each MIRx Venue would double.

I'd say, this will stay a MIR Pro-exclusive feature. :-) Thanks for your understanding!

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, May 23 2015 10:55
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 545
Hi all,

today the final of the ESC (Eurovision Song Contest) will be visible on TVs. Since the Title "Rise like a Phoenix" was the Winnertitle from Austria, last year, this years Show will be Sent from Vienna.

AND I HEARD ......... that a guy called Dietmar Tinhof was part of the success last year and is again involved in this years Show.


I would like to read a little Story from Dietz about the planning this year and the success last year ... maybe in the Vienna backstage stories for June.

to Dietz from my side: WOW! Herzlichen Glückwunsch für diese Leistung!

BR Lars
Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Sat, May 23 2015 16:04
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8056
Thanks for the friendly words, Lars! It's only three hours until the start of the Songcontest's Grand Final, so I think I have to post-pone a more detailed answer. (My vote would go for Latvia, but I guess that Sweden will win ;-) ...).

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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