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Posted on Wed, Feb 16 2022 04:27
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Thanks for the replies which as I mentioned gave me a better perspective. 

Posted on Wed, Feb 16 2022 10:40
by Macker
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2018, London, Posts 634

[Deleted in support of the OP edit]

"Music embodies feeling without forcing it to contend and combine with thought, as it is forced in most arts and especially in the art of words."
~ Franz Liszt
Posted on Wed, Feb 16 2022 11:07
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8332

William, you knew that it would end like that. Why do you even read that stuff? One of the best forum-features is the "Ignore"-list, and that's what you should use. BTW: I suspect that he (she?) is mostly writing about him/herself, actually:

Quote:
It's all depressing, dreary, self-indulgent and rather pretentious seriousness

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Feb 16 2022 17:40
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Thank you Dietz and Macker

Posted on Wed, Feb 16 2022 22:51
by tchampe
Joined on Wed, Apr 25 2018, Posts 101

Bill, I'm dumbfounded. I've started and restarted this post a half-dozen times, each time adding another point-by-point refutation of this screed. But I finally came to the conclusion that there is really nothing to refute. This dude/dudette actually said...absolutely nothing. Generalities, insults, spurious claims of knowledge of Truth regarding the nature of music itself. But on 2nd look, it is 850 words of unsubstantiated simulated-intellectual drivel that B&B would have stated so much more eloquently:

"Huh...Huh...Thith thuckth, Beavith." "Heh...heh...Yeah...sucks!...heh...heh..."

No, the only thing that I am left with is a profound curiosity as to what form of mental illness or social retardation is on display here. What would motivate or drive someone to this type of behavior? What pleasure or satisfaction does it elicit? What forces, what missteps in a person's upbringing would lead him/her to believe that this was an appropriate way to engage other human beings in debate over the merits of a musical composition? Kind of pathetic when you think about it.

As for your Romantic Symphony, Bill, if I were to learn that I am the person who has listened to it from beginning to end more often than anyone but you, yourself, I would not be surprised. Every time I do, I hear something new, something surprising, something that touches me. It is a tremendous accomplishment; thank you for sharing it.

As always, I'm looking forward to hearing your next creation.

Tom

PS: If enjoying your music makes me an "ignorant, uncultivated Zimmeroïd pleb that has no taste or qualifications to appreciate the finer things in music," then it is a description I will bear with pride. I think I'll have it printed on a T-shirt! T

Posted on Thu, Feb 17 2022 11:47
by Macker
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2018, London, Posts 634

[Edited in support of the OP edit]

Indeed a noble edit of the OP, William. That particular ham-fisted hatchet job - which masquerades execrably as a respectable review of your very lovely Romantic Symphony - certainly does not warrant any further "oxygen of publicity". Well done Sir.

"Music embodies feeling without forcing it to contend and combine with thought, as it is forced in most arts and especially in the art of words."
~ Franz Liszt
Posted on Thu, Feb 17 2022 14:41
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Tom, thanks very much - I appreciate that and it really gives me some perspective.  Macker, that is definitely a similar situation - I will check out that video with some trepidation.

Posted on Sat, Feb 19 2022 02:36
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Macker, for some reason I had not seen your signature line - I love it!  And so appropriate!  

Posted on Mon, Feb 21 2022 17:20
by Jos Wylin
Joined on Mon, Dec 03 2012, Belgium, Posts 687

Hi William,

I can't imagine what this discussion is all about, but I guess it's ways beyond the question.

The only thing that really matters here is your Romantic Symphony. It's simple a monument of skill, talent and musical insight and of course years of experience and knowledge of the orchestra.

MANY CONGRATS, IT'S ASTONISHING!

Jos

Posted on Mon, Feb 21 2022 18:28
by Acclarion
Joined on Sat, Aug 15 2015, Canada, Eh!, Posts 616
That sounds excellent.
http://DavidCarovillano.bandcamp.com
Do You Hear Me? Orchestral Album now available!
Posted on Tue, Feb 22 2022 02:36
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Acclarion, Is that a quote?

Posted on Tue, Feb 22 2022 02:48
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Jos, thanks

Posted on Tue, Feb 22 2022 18:12
by Jos Wylin
Joined on Mon, Dec 03 2012, Belgium, Posts 687

You're quite right, William. I see forums disappearing because of too little interest. I noticed that there are very few to none comments on pieces which seem to be worth being commented on. I experience huge indifference and negativity. Is this the spirit of the time? Is this a new attitude towards creativity and art? I truly hope not!

But it has been mentioned here by a number of members: don't seek recognition or admiration on forums. Find it in yourself and your work, your art, your insights. Quality is the most convincing and it will find listening ears eventually. (Alas, our lifetime is often too short to wait that long...)

With great respect,

Jos

Posted on Wed, Feb 23 2022 01:42
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

thanks again, Jos

Posted on Thu, Feb 24 2022 17:38
by Jos Wylin
Joined on Mon, Dec 03 2012, Belgium, Posts 687

I can agree with that!

However, let's enjoy the "things of beauty" as long as we can. That at least is something worth living for, how subjective it may be... and we don't need any so called friends for that.

Jos

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