Did the issue get fixed? Does anyone know?

Hi everyone! I have been a Vienna Ensemble Pro user for many years now and have learned a lot and shared a lot in this forum.

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I dont have any plugins running in the vienna ensemble server. And yeah it works on the VE Pro 6. So as long as I don't upgrade it, it is stable. Just can't justify to myself why I spent $95 to upgrade to VE PRO 7 that I can't use....

Hope it gets fixed

So I had a couple days with no projects to work on so I decided to try VE PRO 7 again......

and its the same issue...... VE PRO 6 server would load up in 20 minutes and then Cubase project will open in 4-5 minutes.... close in 1 minute

now the Ve Pro 7 is loading my server in 35 minutes and took 1 hour to open in Cubase ....... Tried exporting a mixdown and it took 26 minutes (for a 40 second track) I had to force close both cubase and ve pro 7 to get out of a project... how is it getting worse??? why is there no patch for this problem?? 

Rolling back to Ve Pro 6 again.... I don't know what did I spend the $99 for.... 

Originally Posted by: dlpmusic

Can't say for sure but I bet it is related to the slow load and close times I am seeing in VE PRO 7.  I never tried to export as the load/close performance was enough reason for me to go back to VE PRO 6 for now....

Here is the thread I started...

 

https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t52574-Cubase-10-Super-Long-Load-and-Close-Times-VE-PRO-7#post285192

Yes it seems as it hasn't been fixed yet. I tried installing the latest Ve Pro 7 version and the problem persists.

Ve Pro6 works fine. takes less than 1 minute to open/close a project in Cubase.

Has this problem been fixed? I am still on ve pro 6 hich works great. But would love to move to ve pro 7 at some point. Has anyone expreienced better results with hanging times with the new version?

Originally Posted by: civilization 3

Originally Posted by: TimBlast

Same issue here. 

I rolled back to VE Pro 6 for the time beign

Ve Pro 7 with Cubase combo was just impossible to work with. Cubase would take an hour and a half to load up and would take an hour every time I was exporting a mixdown...... well its back to normal with Ve Pro 6 now. Hope they can figure it out soon

Sounds like coupled behavior on crack. I run decoupled with Nuendo, I don't see that at all. The load of VEP 7 has definitely been snappier here. Systems differ widely.

Yeah I run the VE Pro decoupled as well. It might also be network or cpu related, ve pro 7 hangs every time cubase tries to "change the condition" for exaple connecting to the server, starting mixdown, closing the session.

Same issue here. 

I rolled back to VE Pro 6 for the time beign

Ve Pro 7 with Cubase combo was just impossible to work with. Cubase would take an hour and a half to load up and would take an hour every time I was exporting a mixdown...... well its back to normal with Ve Pro 6 now. Hope they can figure it out soon

Originally Posted by: marnix

Hi Tim,

To which build of VE Pro 6 have you downgraded?

Please also try VE Pro 6.0.17226 from https://www.vsl.co.at/en/MyVSL/downloads_archive, as this was probably the version you had installed before upgrading to VE Pro 7!

We are in fact unable to reproduce the issues you are experiencing in-house, but we´ll keep investigating!

Best, Marnix

Maybe my tempate is too big for VE Pro 7... I have about 2000 midi instruments/articulations in one server slpit between 4 VE instances. VE Pro 6 is handling it well now though

Thank you. The version of VE Pro 6 above is working great

Now everything loads as it did before

Downgraded back to VE PRO 6 just now and fml, I am having the same issue with it now too..... man I wish I haven't upgraded to VE PRO 7 yesterday. How does a perfectly balanced and working syste go down down with an upgrade like this? Is there some setting in Cubase or VE Pro that changed iwth the upgrade that throttles the system. 

Before the upgrade: my ve pro 6 server was loading up for about 25 minutes. And I usually left the server run 24/7. A cubase 10 session connected to the ve pro server would open withitn 2-3 minutes.

After update: ve pro 7 server took 35 minutes to load up. Cubase session would take anyhere from 45-70 minutes to competely load.... this is obviously unusable for work. I am now behind the schedule with a score delivery because of this.... 

Originally Posted by: Paul

Gu TimBlast, 

How many AudioPorts do you have set in the VE PRO Preferences, per instance?
How many instances?

=> If you don't use all of them, try lower Audio Ports, that should make a difference. 

That's the part that takes Cubase the longest: Creating all possible automation parameters for those additional outputs. 

Best, 
Paul

I have 16 audio out ports in 4 instances. Use them all...  Well I din't have the same problem in ve pro6  for the last 6 months or so... is there any new setting in ve pro 7 that messes with connection or load time?

Just had 1 successful mixdown... well it was 30 minutes of VE Pro and Cubase hanging before the mixdown started then 1 minute of the actual mixdown and hen 30 minutes again to get back into the session.... I am going to downgrade back to VE pro 6 for now. 

Hope this gets fixed soon... lost a whole day today because of this and for a working composer thats a lot of time

Hi!

I upgraded to VE PRO 7 today and I am using Cubase 10.0.20. I cannot export anything now.... when I try to export mixdown Cubase just starts hanging and I have waited hours without any response. I need to force close either Cubase on my main PC or VE PRO 7 on my slave. Same thing happens whenI try to close a session in Cubase....

Should I roll back to VE PRO 6? I didn't have such issue there.... Also it takes about 30 minutes to even open a Cubase session that is connected to ve pro 7 server.... 

If anyone has any suggestions or work around please post below

P.S. I am in Windows 10 latest update

I have a completely opposite experience with VE 7..... Even though the server it self loads a bit faster. Cubase 10 is hanging for 30 minutes every time I close AND open a project. Had this problem before with VE6 but then it fixed itself at some point... installed VE7 today and its a nightmare.

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42

Originally Posted by: TimBlast

Originally Posted by: musicman691

You say your loading time for that template is 35 to 40 minutes - please tell us you're not loading from a spinner drive but an ssd. Or multiple ssd's. If you're on a Mac Pro cheesegrater putting those ssd's in a pcie card adapter will double the loading speed from if they're in the drive bays.

Oh yes multiple ssds of course, and on a PC with double xeon.... Just lots of instruments i guess, and it loads up into about 240gb of ram . I know a couple of fellow composers who have the same "problem", so its normal for a template that size

 

Huge template then.  How many instruments?  If you have thousands, then it is what it is.  This is another area where if VEP update made a substantial improvement for project load times, through parallelism or something...it would be instant buy for me. 

I have about 1750 instruments/articulations loaded in that template, and yes the ssds are all inside my server pc, I have the kontakt instrument preload buffer size set up to 60 kb. If I go lower than that my cpu starts overloading and i get voice dropouts... adn plus i got 256gb of ram on my server so might as well use it all :)

Also thanks for the update on features. I am excited to see the load times are getting improved. 

Originally Posted by: musicman691

You say your loading time for that template is 35 to 40 minutes - please tell us you're not loading from a spinner drive but an ssd. Or multiple ssd's. If you're on a Mac Pro cheesegrater putting those ssd's in a pcie card adapter will double the loading speed from if they're in the drive bays.

Oh yes multiple ssds of course, and on a PC with double xeon.... Just lots of instruments i guess, and it loads up into about 240gb of ram . I know a couple of fellow composers who have the same "problem", so its normal for a template that size

I am glad they are taking time to test it all out before releasing the final product. Better than what steinberg did with Cubase 10.... where they just rushed the release and had customers be the "beta testers". 

Ve pro 6 is working fine for me on my slave pc. I have 4 VE instances, each with 27 kontakt instances (with 16 articulations each) and they are all running smooth. Load time is a bit long (about 35-40 minutes) so I would love to see that improved in Ve Pro 7. And hopefully the Cpu performance will get a slight improvement, I know they said going from Ve Pro 5 to 6, cpu performance improved by 70 or 80 percent, but I didn't notice much difference then.

I got my pre-order with the epic orchestra 2 a couple weeks ago. Been trying the library out and it sounds alright for the most part, but I wouldn't call it a must have... As someone stated above, I would rather see an upgrade to all 3 licences instead of just 1 (even thou I only have 1 slave PC in my studio, I have a remote set-up that I bring around when I travel and would love to just have licences on separate dongles like before)

Anyways... I am patiently waiting for the release notes.

Okay I got it to export mixdown right after I open the project. But then everytime I try exporting again or even closing down my session VE PRO 6 freezes. And the only way start working again is to close it through task manager and reload the whole thing again which takes about 40 minutes. Is there any way to fix this problem? I don't even know where to start troubleshooring, hope they will fix this in VEPRO 7.

Hi! I ma using Cubase 10 pro with VEPro 6 loaded up on a slave pc with about 240 Gigs server loaded in ram.

Since this morning I ve been having a huge issue with exporting my stereo mixdown. Everytime I try to do it VEPRO 6 just freezes with 0.00% CPU USAGE. I don't know what to do.

It started happening after I upgraded to 10.015 version of Cubase this morning. I trying rolling back to the previous version but the issue persists. 

I can work normaly in my huge project but I cant export my mix.

Anyone else has similar issues, are there any workaorunds?

Anyone?:)

Hi! 

I have been trying to figure out why some instances take significly more time to load up in VE PRO 6 that others.

Here is my template set-up... I work in Cubase 9 Pro on my master pc, have a huge template of about 800 midi tracks for articulations that feed of my slave server pc. On the Slave server i have ve pro 6 running with 40 instances (16 kontakt instruments in each).

When I turn the VE PRO on, and start loading the template, all instances load up fairly quick... about 10 seconds per instance... except 3 instances, 2 of them take about 10 minutes to load and one takes almost 20 minutes to load. Its always the same instances. I have tried batch resaving every kontakt instrument library I have in those instances but it didn't help. I also tried deleteing the libraries and reinstalling them but still no improvement. 

I believe its because Kontakt does something weird... maybe it takes time because it cannot find the path to some library, I just cant pinpoint what exactly is causing it to take so long. If anyone has or had any simlar experience please share:) I appricate the replies in advance! 

PS the libraries that are in the "3 instances that take too much time to load" are : CINESAMPLES CINEPERC PRO and CORE, HEAVYOCITY GRAVITY, WIDE BLUE SOUND ECLIPSE, 8DIO SYNPHONY, HYBRID TOOLS

THANK YOU! 

Tim Blast

Also...

Just tried that workaround and it adds very noticable latency to the sound. Makes instruments very hard to play in real time. I changed from 512 to 0 latency and it crashed my ve pro... duh... I will try setting it to 128 or 64 and will post update here

Quick update:

I was scrolling through this forum and found one workaround: to use Mir Pro as a vst plugin (not integrated) in VE PRO 6. Now the problem is since I have over 600 different instrument articulations does that mean I will have to position all 600 of them on one stage? Is there a way to combine them in groups? Sort of hoow you would do it with bus send fx.

Hi! I just purchased MIR PRO with all the roompacks. I was wandering how would you add a MIR PRO BUS to all 40 instances of an existing template in VE PRO 6. I work in cubase on my main daw computer and have a separate slave server machine that hosts VE PRO with 40 instances each holding 16 Kontakt VI instruments. (why 16 each, because that is the only rela way to do it with cubase as cubase only takes 16 midi channels from one rack instrument at a time)

I have played around with it and couldnt find a way to combine them all. There should be a way for it to work, right? 

PS other way around is to use MIR PRO on my main daw computer for the group channels (violins, violas, etc.) but I really would love to have it on my slave PC integrated in VE PRO 6 (as that what seems to be it perfect working condition)

Thank you all for your time in advance!