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Mac Mini Server as VE Pro Slave?
Last post Sun, Nov 21 2010 by MontrealMusicLabs, 13 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Nov 15 2010 05:29
by mdvirtual
Joined on Mon, Nov 08 2010, USA, Posts 9
Hi all,

I'm new to the boards and enjoying all the discussion here.

Has anyone tried using a Mac Mini Server (the newer 2.66 Core Duo with two HD's) as a VE Pro Slave to host VIs? I'm looking for something very small and portable to supplement my MacBook Pro when I'm on the road.

I use Pro Tools 8.04 LE as my sequencing/mixing platform with VE Pro hosting E/W Play and NI libraries, NI Komplete 6, etc. Would love to be able to network in a Mini via VE PRo to get more horsepower.

I guess the question is - will VE Pro and VIs run on the Snow Leopard Server OS? I thought about loading the standard Snow Leopard OS on the Mini, but Apple support says it's incompatible with the server configuration Mini. The other alternative would be to upgrade the regular mini, replace the optical drive with an HD or SSD, add RAM, etc.

If anyone had any experience with minis I'd be very interested to hear how you made out.

Cheers,

Michael Damon
Composer/Sound Designer
Virtual Productions
Michael Damon
Composer/Sound Designer
Virtual Productions

i7-2600k, 32GB, Win7 Pro, Pro Tools 12, VEP5
Macbook Pro i5 8GB, OS 10.8.5, Pro Tools 12, VEP5
Posted on Tue, Nov 16 2010 16:19
by dmuckala
Joined on Sat, Nov 21 2009, Posts 5
I wouldn't recommend it. I've already tried going that route. You have to figure out a way to obtain a copy of Snow Leopard Install disks, but only the ones that come with the regular mac mini, specifically 10.6.4, will work. You cannot just install an off the shelf copy of Snow Leopard onto it.
Mac Pro 10.6.8/Protools 10/Logic9.1.6
Posted on Tue, Nov 16 2010 18:06
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2626
dmuckala wrote:
You cannot just install an off the shelf copy of Snow Leopard onto it.

Why ?

I have just bought a Mac Mini server, I will use it as a Mac OS X server and as a VSL server.

Apple told me that 99 % of the software should run on a Mac mini server

VSL, have you try this ?

Best

Cyril

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
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Posted on Tue, Nov 16 2010 21:29
by dmuckala
Joined on Sat, Nov 21 2009, Posts 5
Go for it, but i'm telling you i've tried it.
The off the shelf SL is an earlier version than 10.6.4. Only the install disks that come with the 2010 mac mini have the drivers to correctly install on a mac mini server.

and you can't run audo softs on SL server because it only has the core of OSX in it, not all the extra stuff we all need to use it as a daily OS
Mac Pro 10.6.8/Protools 10/Logic9.1.6
Posted on Thu, Nov 18 2010 17:07
by dschweitzer
Joined on Tue, Jan 25 2005, London, UK, Posts 37

VSL - is this true, that you can't run VE Pro on OSX snow leopard server? I have a regular mac mini I've been using as a slave and it's been brilliant (virtually silent, small, fast enough), but I was thinking of getting another, but getting the server version because of the faster hard drives on it. But I will avoid if it's not useable with audio software (I'm using Kontakt as well as vienna softare).

D

Posted on Thu, Nov 18 2010 21:58
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11251

Hi,

IIRC, we have used 2 Mac Minis with OS X 10.6 Server on our west coast tour last week. Worked very well.

Best,

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Nov 18 2010 22:32
by MontrealMusicLabs
Joined on Tue, Aug 08 2006, Posts 14
yup - worked great! Sexy too....
Posted on Fri, Nov 19 2010 00:13
by dschweitzer
Joined on Tue, Jan 25 2005, London, UK, Posts 37

Thanks - that's good to hear and, although it's probably not the right forum to ask on, did that also work with Kontakt, and do you know if it would work on a network connected to regular Snow leopard / leopard machines? many thanks.

Posted on Sat, Nov 20 2010 04:00
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2626

Hi Paul

Great news !

How many instrument did you manage to load per Mac Mini server ?

Is there is a way to set the VSL process so it has the maximum privileges agains Mac os X server process

Best

Cyril

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Sat, Nov 20 2010 17:03
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11251

Hi everybody,

I just used the Mac Mini, there was no time for tests. But it worked fine and was reliable.

Best,

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Nov 20 2010 20:02
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2626

Hi Paul

Was it a Mac Mini or a Mac Mini Server ?

Best

Cyril

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Sun, Nov 21 2010 12:41
by PierreFunck
Joined on Tue, Feb 14 2006, Zurich, Posts 111

Using a Mac Mini with Snow Leopard Server as a VSL slave for half a year now. Works fine, no issues.

Pitt

Posted on Sun, Nov 21 2010 20:13
by MontrealMusicLabs
Joined on Tue, Aug 08 2006, Posts 14
It was a mac mini server.

You can run the imperial on it - which is what a lot folks i know use it for.

As for how many vienna instruments it will - as always, it depends. It is about as powerful as adding a macbook pro or imac slave if that helps.

Cheers,

Shane
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