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Last post Sat, May 21 2011 by GoranTch, 6 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Feb 24 2011 16:52
by Alexander mccabe
Joined on Thu, Feb 17 2011, Posts 2
Hi,
Is there a way to add or use velocity Xfade other than live usage? Can it be added during the editing process?
Thanks
AM
Posted on Thu, Feb 24 2011 17:21
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

Yes. What sequencer are you using?

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Posted on Thu, Feb 24 2011 18:05
by Alexander mccabe
Joined on Thu, Feb 17 2011, Posts 2
logic 9.1.3
Posted on Thu, Feb 24 2011 19:18
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

OK, hopefully one of the Logic users will jump in to explain how to draw the data into the controller lane.

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Posted on Sat, May 14 2011 18:45
by Ege
Joined on Sat, Jan 22 2005, Washington, DC, Posts 104

If you are using VI Pro it's pretty easy to follow.  You have two choices that I know of.

Initial set up of VI Pro.  In Vi Pro Basic Interface (ver. 8008), your fader and control number for Velocity Xfade may already be set up (on the left). If not, click on the "N/A" button and select Velocity Crossfade from the popup menu.  Then, at the top of the slider, select the CC # you want to use.  With this set up, it's just a question of how you want to control that fader.  I use VE Pro with Logic 9.1.3, an thus control the VI Pro instances within VE Pro.

If you don't use VE Pro, and instantiate VI Pro directly, then just open up the Piano Roll midi editor in the Arrange window.  At the bottom left is a small box with arrows on it.  Click on it to open up the "Hyper-draw" window.  Click on the small down arrow that you will see at the left of the window to select the CC number you chose above.  Also, be sure, using the same down arrow, that you have selected the proper channel for the Region you are editing.  Then just select the Pencil tool and draw in a line to change CC values, and thus change the fader in VI Pro.  You can easily test this out by moving the pencil line about, or by using the Pointer tool in the same window and moving nodes about. BTW, VI Pro is so much easier to use and has so much more capability than the Vienna Instruments Player that ships with the library, that I wouldn't hesitate to purchase it.  This is true, even though many of the control of VI Pro are also in Vienna Instruments Player.

You can achieve the same VI Pro fader movement in the separate Hyper-Editor window.  But you may need to  "Create a Hyper Set" in this window, so that the CC you want to affect appears as one of the choices in the Hyper Editor window.

If you use VE Pro, you can use Track Automation that is not Region-by-Region dependent to control CC numbers, and thus the faders within a VI Pro instance.  This procedure involves setting up VE Pro as a combination non-multi-timbral Software instrument and as an External Instrument for each instantiated VI Pro instance within VE Pro.  The process is described in a tutorial mentioned in "Needful Things" on the VSL website, under the heading "Orchestral Templates -- VE Pro with Logic Pro 9".  The process works and looks to be easier than a Region by Region approach to CC control (because you don't have to make sure you haven't made a change in some earlier Region in a Track which carries over to the current Region you are editing, and it is a bit of a pain to scroll through the Event Editor to find you CC values -- and you must do it for every Region in the Track).  The tutorial is of the baby-see baby-do variety, with pictures, and thus is ideal for people like me.  There is a thread on this tutorial which you should read under the VE Pro Software forum.

The second approach, just to finish the thought, is to set up VE Pro as a multi-timbral software instrument, and change CC values directly within Regions, being careful to specify the proper channel for each instantiated VI Pro instance within VE Pro, and setting up each instance with its own channel (which I believe are really subchannels, not channels,  I am still not sure).  This process works also, but doesn't seem as easy to use as the alternative process referred to above.

Anywho, that's how it works.  Try the Needful Things approach using the free copy of VE, especially since it appears to be recommended by VSL itself.  Also, somehow, the fader setup in VE Pro seems easier to work with than the Mixer in Logic.

Steve

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Posted on Sat, May 21 2011 08:59
by GoranTch
Joined on Tue, Mar 14 2006, Berlin, Posts 524

You can shape velocity xfading using a MIDI controller in the key/midi editor of your sequencer - simply draw the midi data on your midi track's controller lane for vel xf (be sure to use the correct controller lane)

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