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Any VSTs that can play .gig files?
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2011 02:08
by Michael C.
Joined on Thu, Jun 26 2003, Minneapolis, MN, USA, Posts 431

I use mostly VI VSTis, but I still have a lot of old VSL giga files that I use as well.  I do not want to use gigastudio along with Sonar anymore.  IS there any good VST program that will play gigs files? I tried one called Giga VST, but it is not great.  Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Mike

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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2011 09:20
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

For the second time today:

G-Player

DG

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Posted on Sun, Jan 23 2011 16:20
by dwmusic
Joined on Fri, Dec 29 2006, Ediinburgh, Scotland, Posts 869

G-Player does work well, albeit with only one bank addressing 16 MIDI channels. The programmer/owner has stated last year that he would 'soon' be releasing a version with multi banks (8x16).  I have found that on Windows I am able to run multiple instances of the standalone G-Player, however he does not recommend this. There is visible (but not audible) digital bleed of transitory 'noise' when this is done, nevertheless I found I could run 8 instances with 16 MIDI channels each.

Still no sign of the multi-bank version, but at least one can play the sample libraries in the meantime.  Has anyone actually got GigaStudio 4 to work on Windows 7?

Derek Williams

www.derekwilliams.net

Posted on Thu, Apr 28 2011 10:13
by weslldeckers
Joined on Tue, Feb 03 2004, The Netherlands, Posts 294

 *BUMP*

Actually, I'm interested in ways of getting my old .gig-files converted into something usable with Nuendo (or Cubase).
I've tried Chicken Sys Translator (free version - I'm not buying anything every again without having it tried and tested beforehand), to .fxp files for Steinberg (Halion?), but that doesn't seem to work... and then I've got to wait about a day before I can use the free program again.
Not a very easy way of transcoding, this...

Anyway, I've got Nuendo and like to convert these .gig files into something usable. The first conversion brought me a folder with .wav files and a bunch of .fxp files, but that didn't work. I'm thrilled to see the raw wave files but... how to get them into something playable? I don't mind a thousand midi-tracks set-up in Nuendo, as long as I can play these samples with a keyboard.

Suggestions are more than welcome!
Thank you!

Posted on Thu, Apr 28 2011 12:02
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

 G player

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
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48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Thu, Apr 28 2011 14:12
by weslldeckers
Joined on Tue, Feb 03 2004, The Netherlands, Posts 294

 Thanks DG!
I don't know why I just held on to the idea of converting these files while they can be played with a nice plug-in! on a 64-bit system!
Yes! It'll set me back about 150 dollars unfortunately, but GigaStudio 3 (orchestra) won't install on 64-bit.. not even in 32-bit compability-mode.

But... that renders my old windows XP system rather useless... Have to think about how to integrate that..
One problem solved, a few more to go! ;)

Posted on Sat, May 07 2011 21:50
by mmueller
Joined on Mon, Sep 28 2009, Posts 119
I use as VSTi called Samplelord with jbridge on a 64bit system.

It does play back gig-file natively.


Working flawless. And it's cheap.


A true 64bit VSTi is under development and free of cost for owners of the current version.
Posted on Thu, May 26 2011 20:48
by Pianistikboy
Joined on Sun, Sep 05 2004, France, Posts 5

Hi DG! you propose gplayer as a replacement for GS3. It seems to be the only sampler solution for those who possess old vsl libraries (First Edition in my case) and want to upgrade their OS to Windows 64 bits without any problems.

I've tried the demo of gplayer before leaving my old GS3. and I've found the following problem : on a big intrument like the piano bossendorfer, there is a small but audible click at the end of all the notes played in staccato. it's a great shame Tongue Tied This also occure when playing the piano recorded track.

I think I will have to accept to do without my favorite piano instrument. Is anyone has the same problem on other big instruments? Is there any solution.

However the other instruments works normally. The sound is the same as played in the original sampler : Gigastudio 3.

Many thanks for your answers,

 Anthony Sylvestre 

http://www.anthonysylvestre.com

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Posted on Thu, May 26 2011 21:11
by mmueller
Joined on Mon, Sep 28 2009, Posts 119
Try the samplelord demo http://www.samplelord.com/index.php?page=demo .

It has one fantastic feature called collections.

With a simple textfile you can create banks/patches collection with any instruments you have.

Samplellord is then loading the whole collection into one (midi) channel (!).

Now you can swich between all instruments or articulations of your collection with simple bank and program change events - on a single (!) midi track.

A single collection text file could for example combine all your violin sounds to one big violin package with instant access.
Posted on Thu, May 26 2011 21:50
by dwmusic
Joined on Fri, Dec 29 2006, Ediinburgh, Scotland, Posts 869

There is a 64 bit version of G-Player for both Windows and Mac (in beta):

http://www.soundlib.com/gplayer

Only problem I have with G-Player is it has only a single bank of 16 MIDI channels, whereas with GS4, I used to have 8x16.  I have found it is in practice possible to run several instances of G-Player at once, albeit with a little visible but generally inaudible digital noise, however this is not recommended by its developer, who stated last year that he was working on a multi bank version for release any time soon.

If there is a 64 bit multi bank version of SampleLord, I'd still be interested in a switch, because the G-Player guy looks like he has gone to sleep.

Derek Williams

Posted on Thu, May 26 2011 22:29
by mmueller
Joined on Mon, Sep 28 2009, Posts 119
dwmusic wrote:

If there is a 64 bit multi bank version of SampleLord, I'd still be interested in a switch, because the G-Player guy looks like he has gone to sleep.




You can have multibanks right now by using the collections feature of Samplelord.

Example: We have three files (piano.sf2, bass.gig, drums.nki) located in C:\Samples\ folder and we would like to create a collection file dance.col .

Then you open Notepad on Windows and type
0 1 C:\Samples\piano.sf2
0 2 C:\Samples\bass.gig
0 3 C:\Samples\drums.nki


And save this as dance.col .

When you load dance.col in Samplellord it loads and caches all the instruments listed in your textfile and makes them accessible with bank and program changes

In our example, when Samplelord receive Program Change #1 through its MIDI Input it will select piano.sf2. When Program Change #2 is received it will select bass.gig as the active patch etc.

With that you can create collection files including several (VSL) banks and files that are all loaded at once in one of the 16 channels.

You can also use several instances of the program. I use it with jBridge on Win7 64 - by that every instance can access 3 gigs of Ram. Caching of gig files is way more efficient than Kontakt 4.

Samplellord for 64 bit is in the works. However, jBridge works fine.
Posted on Mon, Dec 05 2011 20:42
by mike harper
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, Atlanta, Ga USA, Posts 219

  Wow so there is hope for us version 1 dinosaurs.!!Big Smile I just resurrected my studio, but I am out of capital to replace my old 1st edition. I'll try G player and post reports. This sounds good- at least too get buy for another year or so before splurging 5+k on a decent library.

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Regards
Posted on Mon, Dec 05 2011 21:07
by dwmusic
Joined on Fri, Dec 29 2006, Ediinburgh, Scotland, Posts 869

MOTU MachFive will also play .gig files, and I believe Kontakt will too.

Derek Williams

Posted on Mon, Dec 05 2011 22:12
by mmueller
Joined on Mon, Sep 28 2009, Posts 119
mike harper wrote:

  Wow so there is hope for us version 1 dinosaurs.!!Big Smile I just resurrected my studio, but I am out of capital to replace my old 1st edition. I'll try G player and post reports. This sounds good- at least too get buy for another year or so before splurging 5+k on a decent library.

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You could also try linuxsampler. It is free and available as VSTi for 32 and 64 bit for Win as well as AUi for OSX. I use it with Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 and its working just fine. CPU load is very low. Latest Snapshot for Win can be found here http://download.linuxsam...ackages/win32/snapshots/ latest OSX version is here http://download.linuxsam.../packages/osx/snapshots/ . Inserting 8 instances with 8 midi ports and 128 stereo channels out on WIN 7 takes just 80 megabytes of RAM (16 instances, 256 stereo channels = 120 MB).

There are people using it with the old orchestral cube. You can use midi maps for accessing different articulations via program changes. A nice tutorial was written by the open octave team: https://github.com/ccherrett/oom/wiki/Linuxsampler . C. Cherett is working with VSL giga samples exculsivly.

Posted on Mon, Dec 26 2011 03:59
by popmann
Joined on Mon, Apr 23 2007, Nashville, TN, Posts 131

GPlayer and exs24 on the Mac both worked great. Kontakt is USELESS, IME, at importing Giga samples. I don't think I've ever had a single gig file play/sound correct in Kontakt 2 or 4...I don't know that I tried three, but what are the chances it worked if it didn't work before or after? I honestly think they should take the compatibility off the list. Simple drum and piano programs should be simple conversions, and they're unplayable wrong every time. Just FYI. 

Posted on Mon, Dec 26 2011 20:58
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7289
/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Dec 26 2011 21:59
by mmueller
Joined on Mon, Sep 28 2009, Posts 119
Chicken Systems Translator never worked.
Kontakt's integrated conversion is also not working.

Extreme Sample Converter is by far the best tool to translate gig files into Kontakt. It's also cheap.
Posted on Thu, Oct 30 2014 15:37
by Jonny Hotchkiss
Joined on Thu, Oct 30 2014, Posts 2
Hi there! This sounds like great advice, and worthy of investigation.

A video would REALLY help noobs that maybe aren't familiar with articulation stuff (I'm learning Reaper, and all the MIDI magic I need to connect the digitial dots and enable a virtual band :)

Appreciate this was posted YEARS AGO... but shy bairns get nowt!

Thanks for the insights. Currently trying to understand what's needed between DAW (Reaper) and "instruments and controllers" (.gigs, .liquids, virtual midi emulation and cabling, and "performance tools").

Another optimistic noob...
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