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Posted on Mon, Jun 11 2012 23:43
by dlitt
Joined on Wed, Jun 06 2012, Posts 9
Hi All,

any help much appreciated.
I'm using the above software (in title).
I've set up vienna ensemble running though logic, as I haven't had time to use a keyboard, this is how i've set it up:

I'm using a multi timbral 16 input virtual instrument in logic, to add a string accompaniment in midi over a track i already wrote for piano which is down in logic as an audio file.

I've been writing in a manner i'm sure is ridiculously inefficient and perhaps stems from not understanding what a keyswitch is in the context of a midi score,( or much about writing for midi anyhow); -

I use a separate vienna instrument in ensemble with a separate articulation in each midi channel, and try to synchronize them if I need to...

I can't figure out how to write in the midi so that it will play different articulations of the instrument in one channel, I can only seem to do this by playing live with a midi keyboard. If I change articulation on the vienna instruments/ensemble screen, the whole score in that channel changes to the selected articulation in logic.


second problem occurred when I first attached my keyboard today; logic does seem to record separate articulations in midi when played live (though I havent closed, saved, and re-opened to check), but I am having problems I dont understand with the keyboard.
Composing with the method above has left my Ensemble showing several instruments; among them a cello set to legato, a tremolo violin and a legato violin.
I began by trying the tremolo patch, recording my playing as I moved to legato using my pitchwheel. Fine.
Then I click to switch to the cello, and my keyboard seems to have mapped part of its keyspan to the cello, and part of it to tremolo violin. I also can't seem to play other instrument patches in spite of clicking them both in logic and VE.

Please help with this!
thanks,
David

Posted on Mon, Jun 11 2012 23:49
by dlitt
Joined on Wed, Jun 06 2012, Posts 9
Also,could anyone tell me whether the keyswitch articulations mean that a seperate matrix is triggered by every press of a certain musical keyboard key?

---im not surethis is my problem
Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2012 07:11
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11251

Hello dlitt, 

The best idea is to watch the Video Tutorials, where all of this is explained step by step. 

Greetings, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2012 14:52
by dlitt
Joined on Wed, Jun 06 2012, Posts 9
Hi Paul,

I've already watched them....but somethings that probably should make obvious sense have somehow passed a newbie like me by.
They don't say anything about using midi keyboards either that I can see.

thanks,
David
Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2012 15:33
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11251

Hi dlitt, 

Hm, could you rephrase your question then?

To Vienna Instruments it doesn´t make any difference where MIDI comes from, be it notation or live playing, MIDI is just MIDI. 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2012 18:50
by dlitt
Joined on Wed, Jun 06 2012, Posts 9
ok- how do i make my midi keyboard play only the selected instrument across its note-range, and then record that in logic?
Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2012 19:01
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11251

Hi, 

Make sure that each instrument/channel in Vienna Ensemble is assigned to only 1 MIDI Channel (on top of the Channel). 

This is also described in the Vienna Ensemble Manual, page 14, "Channel Overview". 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Jun 16 2012 00:04
by dlitt
Joined on Wed, Jun 06 2012, Posts 9
thanks paul
Posted on Sat, Jun 16 2012 05:53
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1589

dlitt wrote:
Also,could anyone tell me whether the keyswitch articulations mean that a seperate matrix is triggered by every press of a certain musical keyboard key? ---im not surethis is my problem
if you press the key assigned to switch the matrix it is. you must have the keyswitches out of the range of the instrument you're using.

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Posted on Sat, Jun 16 2012 12:05
by dlitt
Joined on Wed, Jun 06 2012, Posts 9
just saw this and it finally clicked for me, goodness me I was slow. Thanks a ton.
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