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Is there a limitation of connected VE Pro instances in Logic X?
Last post Thu, Feb 05 2015 by MS, 12 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Jan 28 2014 01:36
by paulkochmusic
Joined on Thu, Jul 22 2010, Posts 6
Hi!

I'm having a strange VE Pro problem that I'm hoping someone can help me out with.

I'm transferring a local Logic X template over to a local VE Pro template (all on one computer). I prefer to have a single vframe for each track to maintain the use of "bounce in place", among other things, so I am not using multitimbral instances and have a whole lot of vframes in VEP Server (64 bit).

With that said, the first 75 instances worked as you would expect. On instance number 76, only "localhost [new]" shows up in the available instances window, with none of my other created vframes. If I connect that to create a new instance (which is my only option at that point), on number 77, no vframes show up at all, not even the option for a new one.

If I disconnect an instance, the option for a new instance comes back, and if I disconnect another, all my vframes come back.

I know that normal usage of VEP is to have many fewer multi-timbral instances and route the MIDI, but for now that's not the best way for me to work.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!
Tags: Logic X VE PRO
Posted on Tue, Jan 28 2014 03:13
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11029

Hi, 

What are the specs of your computer?

To be honest, I have never tried to add that many VE PRO instances. You can also send me your 76 template instance to:

Best,

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jan 28 2014 05:34
by paulkochmusic
Joined on Thu, Jul 22 2010, Posts 6
Thanks Paul,

Yeah, I know it's not the most usual case having so many instances, but if 75 of them work 100%, I hope that I can get a few more in there.

I'm on a 2009 8-core Mac Pro, 2.26GHz, 40GB of RAM.

I can add as many instances to VEP Server as I want, but Logic stops finding them after 75.

I'll email you the metaframe.

Thanks!
Posted on Sat, Feb 15 2014 05:06
by paulkochmusic
Joined on Thu, Jul 22 2010, Posts 6
Hi Paul, any updates?

Thanks.
Posted on Sat, Feb 15 2014 07:09
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11029

Hi Paul, 

I just looked through my support emails, couldn´t find any emails from your registered email address. Please send the file again, I´ll have a look after the weekend. 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Feb 16 2014 05:50
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2612

I was told by VSL support that to get the best performances out of VSL  is to have a single VE

I also Use IAC !

I run  a VE with 100 VI and MIR PRO in 7.1 

The draw back is you have to bounce all your song in real time ! this is not a big deal !

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Posted on Mon, Feb 17 2014 10:19
by paulkochmusic
Joined on Thu, Jul 22 2010, Posts 6
Thanks Paul. Resent.
Posted on Mon, Feb 17 2014 10:25
by paulkochmusic
Joined on Thu, Jul 22 2010, Posts 6

Hi Cyril,

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Thanks, but that doesn't work for me. I need a separate output for each track, and if I had to bounce everything in real time, I would spend half my life printing stems/synth masters. And I'd lose Bounce In Place. So in my case, it *is* a big deal. ;)

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Performance isn't an issue with 75 instances. The first 75 run just fine. It's just that that's the maximum number of instances it will let me connect. If I could use multi-timbral instrument tracks in Logic and not lose Bounce In Place, I probably would.

Posted on Tue, Feb 03 2015 23:03
by paulkochmusic
Joined on Thu, Jul 22 2010, Posts 6

I know this is a very old thread, but are there any updates to this?  Has there been any progress in figuring out this ~75 instance limit in Logic?

Thanks!

PK

Posted on Wed, Feb 04 2015 08:12
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Liechtenstein, Posts 1714

Which build of VEPro are you using? The latest build should make more instances possible. I would also recommend using the Multiport Layer for Logic Pro X 10.1. 75 instances sounds like a lot of hassle for navigation.

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Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Wed, Feb 04 2015 23:45
by samphony
Joined on Mon, Apr 10 2006, Posts 68

Originally Posted by: MS Go to Quoted Post

Which build of VEPro are you using? The latest build should make more instances possible. I would also recommend using the Multiport Layer for Logic Pro X 10.1. 75 instances sounds like a lot of hassle for navigation.

 

Hi Martin is the multiport working more reliable since LPX 10.1?

Posted on Thu, Feb 05 2015 07:54
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Liechtenstein, Posts 1714
Yes, Apple increased the midi buffer sizes in 10.1, so it should work just fine now.
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Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
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