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Posted on Sun, Aug 02 2009 16:57
by alexdavis
Joined on Sat, May 26 2007, Posts 46

Hey all,

A while back I remember seeing a post on the VSL forum that helped users find the perfect levels for every instrument, so that dynamic ranges were appropriate and levels never maxed out. Does anyone remember where to find that guide? Was it a forum post or an official VSL document?


Posted on Sun, Aug 02 2009 17:35
by ct1961
Joined on Sat, Dec 15 2007, Posts 438

Hi Alex

Try...         http://community.vsl.co....t/10138.aspx?PageIndex=1


Posted on Sun, Aug 02 2009 19:33
by alexdavis
Joined on Sat, May 26 2007, Posts 46

there it is, thnks!

Posted on Sun, Aug 02 2009 19:42
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7248
The Vienna MIR offers a feature called "Natural Volume" which is meant to take for this issue, BTW. :-)
/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Mar 06 2015 14:56
by Thomas Karas
Joined on Thu, Nov 03 2005, Posts 4

Hello Guys,

the link quoted in this thread is not working anymore. Is this document still available?


Sounds quite interesting.



Posted on Tue, Mar 10 2015 18:58
by johnstaf
Joined on Thu, Apr 21 2011, Dublin, Posts 189
The MIRx manual has a list of the natural volume reductions for each instrument. It works very well.
Cubase (OS agnostic). Various VSL bits and pieces.

Posted on Fri, Mar 13 2015 13:28
by Ege
Joined on Sat, Jan 22 2005, Washington, DC, Posts 104

One problem I have found difficult is determining the recorded loudness of the total mix, since computer speakers and earphones depend on my volume settings on the computer.  It's easy enough to guard against going in excess of 0.0 dB, but what about passages that are to be quiet or subdued?


I have found a plug-in, from a company called TC Electronics that will measure an average loudness, and the documentation says you can use the plug-in to obtain preferred broadcast levels of average loudness.  Using the plug-in you not only guard against peaking, but better preserve dynamic levels.  The interface provides a kind of "radar screen" that displays an average of output.  In this way you have an objective, presumably industry standard, way of measuring the output of your mix while preserving dynmics.  The plug-in is called LM2n Loudness Radar, and I place it as the last plug-in in the Master Bus of VE Pro, just before output.  I have no connection with this company, other than as a purchaser of their product.  There's a YouTube video about the product if you search.


I would be interested to hear what others think of the program.  I now use it all the time, toward the end of composition.



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Posted on Sat, Mar 14 2015 09:00
by Dominique
Joined on Fri, Aug 08 2008, Posts 176

Thanks for the heads up Steve. The loudness radar looks like a very neat plugin. So far I've used T-Racks Metering, which is great but not as advanced as the loudness radar. By the way, Ian Shepherd has some very informative videos about loudness standards and various metering plugins:


And here's another resourceful thread on the VSL forum about it:



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