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Multiport for Logic Pro X :: Note Off leak across ports
Last post Thu, Jun 16 2016 by Cyril Blanc, 14 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Jun 10 2016 09:44
by studio_7033
Joined on Wed, Jun 23 2004, Posts 1

I have been searching the forum for an answer to my issue and I am hoping that someone can direct me in the right direction.

 

I am using the Vienna Ensemble PRO 5 Multiport Templates for Logic Pro X (latest version) to connect to a large VSL library. My issue is that note off messages on a midi channel are not behaving discretely when sent through a port. For example, a C4 note on midi channel 1 port 1 will leak through and send a note off to all C4’s on channel 1 in any of the ports sent to the VE Pro instance. I can not find a work around that uses the multiport. Hope this is clear. Can anyone help?

 

Thanks. Ricky.

 

Mac iMac Late 2013 (Master) - 3.5 Ghz Intel Core i7 32GB Ram - OS X El Capitan - Logic Pro X 10.2.3

Mac Pro (Slave) 2 x 3.46 Ghz 6-Core Intel Xeon 64 GB Ram - OS X El Capitan - VE Pro 5.4.14074

Posted on Fri, Jun 10 2016 20:18
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13437

Hi Ricky,

I´m afraid that is one of the very annoying bugs that come with the environment. We cannot really help it, unfortunately. Still hoping for a working AU3 version to come. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Jun 11 2016 16:31
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2726

Do you want me to send a few mesures of your song so I check the Environement, at cb dot pub at numericable dot com

Before you send it check that the bug is still there.

 

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur

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Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
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Posted on Sun, Jun 12 2016 05:04
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2726

Hi Paul

Why is the AU3 version is taking so long to be availlable ?

 

Best

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

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Posted on Sun, Jun 12 2016 17:47
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13437

Hi Cyril, 

Because up until now the features implemented in AU3 do not work as expected. Of course Apple/Logic has been informed about all our findings, and we´re hoping that this will be fixed with upcoming versions of Logic Pro. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Jun 12 2016 18:00
by FredB
Joined on Sat, Apr 01 2006, Montreal, Posts 669
Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post
Hi Cyril,
Because up until now the features implemented in AU3 do not work as expected. Of course Apple/Logic has been informed about all our findings, and we´re hoping that this will be fixed with upcoming versions of Logic Pro.
Best,Paul


Hi Paul,

Is Logic 10.2.3 ready for VEP AU3 multiport version or we still have to wait for upcoming versions?

Fred
Fred

Master: Imac I7 32Gb Late 2013 - - OsX 10.13.6
Slave: Corei7 6800k 64gb - Win 10
Soft: Logic X 10.4.4 - ProTools 12.x - VE Pro 6 - VI Pro 2 - MIR
Posted on Sun, Jun 12 2016 18:07
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13437

Hi, 

We have to wait. Believe me, I´d love to tell you something different. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Jun 15 2016 11:38
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2726

LOGIC 10.2.3 have been just posted

In the updates notes hey say :

The Articulation State in the Smart Control Orchestral layout is now saved as part of a patch.

I have look in the help  !

Does anybody have information about this ?

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

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Posted on Wed, Jun 15 2016 11:53
by FredB
Joined on Sat, Apr 01 2006, Montreal, Posts 669
It just means that the if the articulation button is set to Pizz when saving a patche, it Will load with with Pizz selected when loading the saved patche.
Fred

Master: Imac I7 32Gb Late 2013 - - OsX 10.13.6
Slave: Corei7 6800k 64gb - Win 10
Soft: Logic X 10.4.4 - ProTools 12.x - VE Pro 6 - VI Pro 2 - MIR
Posted on Wed, Jun 15 2016 13:22
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2726

HI Fred

Where is this articulation button ?

Where is this Smart Control Orchestral ?

 

Best

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

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Posted on Wed, Jun 15 2016 14:22
by FredB
Joined on Sat, Apr 01 2006, Montreal, Posts 669

Load any factory orchestral patche from the library browser (i.e. session Strings)

check the smart controls.

Those buttons are assigned to Articulations ID.

You can access other Smart Controls layouts in the Smart Controls Inspector too.

This is useless when outside Logic's factory instruments unless you use a Scripter plugin to convert Articulation ID to keyswitch (like ArtzID from peter Schwartz).

Fred

Master: Imac I7 32Gb Late 2013 - - OsX 10.13.6
Slave: Corei7 6800k 64gb - Win 10
Soft: Logic X 10.4.4 - ProTools 12.x - VE Pro 6 - VI Pro 2 - MIR
Posted on Wed, Jun 15 2016 14:40
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2726

Hi Fred

Thanks for your answer.

Does those Articulation ID are passed to the AU ?

Do you know if the articulation ID can be show in the score ? replace the number by a text ?

Is there is a full manual about Scripter ?

Best

 

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

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Posted on Wed, Jun 15 2016 15:48
by FredB
Joined on Sat, Apr 01 2006, Montreal, Posts 669
The articulations ID is embeded in the note juste like the midi channel Numbers. So In a certain way yes it passes to the AU. But no AU can interpret it. Only EXS24 knows what to do with it. I don't think devellopers have the tools to assign anything to it (yet).
So the workaround is to program a script that will translate ArtID to something else with scripter midi plugin .

And note that there is no way to convert ArtID in the environnement tranformer.

There no way to see ArtID in the score unfortunatly.

There is a section for scripter in the plugins manual. But it require that you know some basic Javascript. Or you do like me and spend times analysing other scripts.

It works pretty well in fact, I use it everyday.
Fred

Master: Imac I7 32Gb Late 2013 - - OsX 10.13.6
Slave: Corei7 6800k 64gb - Win 10
Soft: Logic X 10.4.4 - ProTools 12.x - VE Pro 6 - VI Pro 2 - MIR
Posted on Thu, Jun 16 2016 06:29
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2726

HI Fred

 

Thanks

I have beeing looking at the smart controls !!!! could it be a solution ???

The Scripter Manual in Logic plug-in manual is very limited, you dont even have the note parameters names !!! do you know a better manual ?

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
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