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1.5-2 second lag with Logic Pro X and VE Pro 6
Last post Tue, Oct 25 2016 by yvesrecording, 36 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 16:08
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2172

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic Go to Quoted Post

Ok, so in VE Pro 6 on my slave PC I started creating empty instances in blocks of ten, then creating instances of the VE Pro 6 plug-in in Logic and connecting them. Starting app. around 35 is where I start to notice the latency. At 43, it is just a little less than with my populated instances.

I reproduced this both locally and connected to a PC with 44 empty connected instances. Locally, there is about half a second of lag before the transport starts playing, which I'd say is acceptable considering the rather large amount of connected instances. Connected to a PC, there is indeed about 1.5-2 seconds of lag, which has to be due to the extra network round-trip per instance.

The strange thing is that this part of VE Pro 6 has not changed. If anything it should be faster than before. Are you absolutely certain this lag didn't exist in VE Pro 5?

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 16:20
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

I only have around 16 local instances. 2 second lag. And really, why should we settle for an acceptable lag when this lag was not present with VEP5? I don't see anything that warrants a playback dealy. It's annoying as hell. And I have confidence in that the VSL team will fix it :)

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 16:27
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2172

Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn Go to Quoted Post

I only have around 16 local instances. 2 second lag. And really, why should we settle for an acceptable lag when this lag was not present with VEP5? I don't see anything that warrants a playback dealy. It's annoying as hell. And I have confidence in that the VSL team will fix it :)

That is indeed unacceptable. Could you send your Server Project to with my name and this forum post mentioned? Thanks.

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 16:39
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

Originally Posted by: Karel Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic Go to Quoted Post

Ok, so in VE Pro 6 on my slave PC I started creating empty instances in blocks of ten, then creating instances of the VE Pro 6 plug-in in Logic and connecting them. Starting app. around 35 is where I start to notice the latency. At 43, it is just a little less than with my populated instances.

I reproduced this both locally and connected to a PC with 44 empty connected instances. Locally, there is about half a second of lag before the transport starts playing, which I'd say is acceptable considering the rather large amount of connected instances. Connected to a PC, there is indeed about 1.5-2 seconds of lag, which has to be due to the extra network round-trip per instance.

The strange thing is that this part of VE Pro 6 has not changed. If anything it should be faster than before. Are you absolutely certain this lag didn't exist in VE Pro 5?

 

I am not answering for Ash, but I can say that there is no lag whatsover (well, yes, maybe - but it's neglectable - maybe 0,2 seconds) in VEP5 for me, no matter if I only have local instances or both local and slave. Typically my template will be around 16 local instances + 6 instances on one PC slave + 8 instances on another. No lag in VEP5. 

 

I am on a Mac Pro, latest El Capitan, latest Logic etc.

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 16:44
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 534

Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Karel Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic Go to Quoted Post

Ok, so in VE Pro 6 on my slave PC I started creating empty instances in blocks of ten, then creating instances of the VE Pro 6 plug-in in Logic and connecting them. Starting app. around 35 is where I start to notice the latency. At 43, it is just a little less than with my populated instances.

I reproduced this both locally and connected to a PC with 44 empty connected instances. Locally, there is about half a second of lag before the transport starts playing, which I'd say is acceptable considering the rather large amount of connected instances. Connected to a PC, there is indeed about 1.5-2 seconds of lag, which has to be due to the extra network round-trip per instance.

The strange thing is that this part of VE Pro 6 has not changed. If anything it should be faster than before. Are you absolutely certain this lag didn't exist in VE Pro 5?

 

I am not answering for Ash, but I can say that there is no lag whatsover (well, yes, maybe - but it's neglectable - maybe 0,2 seconds) in VEP5 for me, no matter if I only have local instances or both local and slave. Typically my template will be around 16 local instances + 6 instances on one PC slave + 8 instances on another. No lag in VEP5. 

 

I am on a Mac Pro, latest El Capitan, latest Logic etc.

I can confirm that there was no lag that I can remember with VE Pro 5, even with my biggest templates.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.14.5
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 19:28
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2172

I confirmed and fixed a regression that caused these lags in VE Pro 6 for the next update. Thanks for the detailed reports!

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Aug 26 2016 23:56
by DanielJamesLee
Joined on Tue, Jul 19 2011, Posts 13

6.0.15258 still has the lag. I was really hoping that the release notes were correct, but sadly the issue is not gone. 

Now, when I press play for the forst time, it takes about 1-2 minutes for the playhead to move; therafter it takes about 3 seconds, so it is better than the 10 seconds we were seeing before, but still unusable for me. I have 88 VEP instances running; while this is obviously a lot, it works perfectly in VEP5.

Going back to VEP5... again...

2013 Mac Pro 8 core 3.0, 128 GB RAM
Slave 1: 17 8 core 64 GB RAM Win7
Slave 2: 17 8 core 64 GB RAM Win7
Slave 3: 2012 i7 4 core Mac mini 16 GB RAM
Slave 4: 2012 i7 4 core Mac mini 16 GB RAM
Apollo8
Posted on Sat, Aug 27 2016 10:15
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

I received a pre-release of the next version, and I can confirm that the lag is completely gone - just like VEP5. Only tested with my local instances, but I am pretty sure it will fix the lag across the board.

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Sat, Aug 27 2016 11:27
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 534
Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn Go to Quoted Post
I received a pre-release of the next version, and I can confirm that the lag is completely gone - just like VEP5. Only tested with my local instances, but I am pretty sure it will fix the lag across the board.



As can I, on both my Mac and slave PC.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.14.5
Posted on Mon, Aug 29 2016 13:43
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11029

Hi everybody, 

Get the new update VE PRO 6.0.15264 in MyVSL!

This bug is now finally fixed!

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Aug 29 2016 15:33
by Matt Riley
Joined on Wed, Jan 29 2014, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Posts 28

I would be curious to hear confirmation on it's success. Everyone happy?

Matt Riley
Master: 2013 iMac 27inch 3.5Ghz quad-core i7 32GB, Mavericks
Slave: 5820k 6-core at 4.4Ghz, 64GB, Windows 10 x64 Pro
Posted on Sun, Sep 18 2016 12:44
by yvesrecording
Joined on Sun, Feb 06 2011, Posts 5

Hello everybody,

New user of ensemble pro 6 here.

Sorry for what I miss, but I have the exact same problem : Delay of 4-5 seconds when I hit "play" or "rec".

Except this really big problem, everything is working fine.

I have one macpro 12 core 3,46 64 Go ram as master and an exact same macpro like slave with EP6.

I have VE PRO 6.0.15264, with 45 tracks Kontakt in the EP6 on the slave. (I use Keyswitcher with oscTouch on ipad)

Do I miss something?

Thanks for any help,

Yves.

Posted on Mon, Sep 26 2016 11:43
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11029

Hello Yves, 

Did you make sure that you are using the latest version of VE PRO 6?

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Oct 21 2016 19:17
by yvesrecording
Joined on Sun, Feb 06 2011, Posts 5

Hello Paul,

Now, with the last update, no more problems with EP6!

I have another problem with my main Macpro but it's another story ;-)

Very Happy with the EP6 now.

Thanks,

Yves.

Posted on Tue, Oct 25 2016 17:48
by umarekawaru
Joined on Fri, Dec 28 2012, Posts 77

Originally Posted by: yvesrecording Go to Quoted Post
Now, with the last update, no more problems with EP6!

Was that on Mac OS X Yosemite?  VE PRO 6.0.15401?

Logic 10.4.4 - Mac Pro 2010 12 Core 3.46 GHz - 48 GB RAM - Mac OS 10.12.6 - VSL: almost everything
Posted on Tue, Oct 25 2016 17:52
by yvesrecording
Joined on Sun, Feb 06 2011, Posts 5

The very last update on El Capitan.

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