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Posted on Tue, Nov 01 2016 11:56
by Andreas 1
Joined on Fri, Jun 09 2006, Posts 35

I would like to know more about the new instruments. I cannot find anything about the articulations!

Posted on Tue, Nov 01 2016 11:58
by Andreas 1
Joined on Fri, Jun 09 2006, Posts 35

Sorry, I found it!

Posted on Tue, Nov 01 2016 12:07
by Andreas 1
Joined on Fri, Jun 09 2006, Posts 35

Are there any plans for an Extended Library for the new instruments? 

I would buy the new instruments immediately if I know that Extended Librarys still appear. But so I miss many important playing techniques: the articualtions are not complete enough for my solo compositions.

Posted on Tue, Nov 01 2016 12:26
by AlexanderEbel
Joined on Sat, Jan 07 2012, Posts 24

Am I missing something or is there no spiccato? And do those new instruments just have a nwe timbre or also new functionality compared to the old Solo Strings Collection instruments, like more velocity Layers or RRs? Otherwise the old ones still seam to be a much better all round deal and much more flexible. 

kind regards

Posted on Tue, Nov 01 2016 12:33
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 505

Originally Posted by: andreas1 Go to Quoted Post

Are there any plans for an Extended Library for the new instruments? 

 

Hello all,

I ask further ...

Are there plans to

 

a) add Bass & Viola

b) add even muted Versions?

I expected a second Solo Violin, as you hear often Quintetts with 2 Solo Violin Players. But I did not expect a second Cello!

It would indeed be interesting why you have decided to do this. Maybe Herb could wrinte a few thoughts ...

 (BY THE WAY: GREAT SURPRISE! ;)

BR Lars

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Posted on Tue, Nov 01 2016 13:03
by AlexanderEbel
Joined on Sat, Jan 07 2012, Posts 24

And another question. Do you plan to release the "old" Solo Strings as single Instruments at some point? Having Violin 2 and Cello 2 this would be a logical step...

Posted on Tue, Nov 01 2016 13:51
by MMKA
Joined on Tue, May 22 2012, Posts 333

By the way, did you hear the demo of cello 2? I like this sound, really beautiful, expressive in a very natural way. Of course Jay Bacal is a real sample artist, but in my ears this cello is a step further compared to the cello of the solo strings. I'm very curious about violin 2 ...

Posted on Wed, Nov 02 2016 17:41
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11678

Hi everybody, 

So many questions 

Glad to see that you like our new additions, we´re really happy about the results as well!

Here are a few answers (from today´s perspective): 

- There is no Extended Library planned for those 2 instruments, also no muted versions. 

- Additional Viola and Double Bass instruments are not scheduled.

- There are no plans to split up the Solo Strings Collections into separate instruments. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Nov 05 2016 14:42
by Pro-Arte
Joined on Thu, Feb 13 2003, Nice France, Posts 182

Dear Paul, 

Will some demos of the solo violin 2 online soon ?

 

Thank You

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Posted on Sat, Nov 05 2016 18:12
by Andreas 1
Joined on Fri, Jun 09 2006, Posts 35

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

- There is no Extended Library planned for those 2 instruments, also no muted versions. 

The demos are sounding great! But please think about Extended Librarys! This would give the users numerous additional possibilities for their compositions. In the 21st century should be harmonics, ponticello, sul tasto, sordino etc. a matter of course in string libraries.

Posted on Sat, Nov 05 2016 20:11
by steff3
Joined on Thu, Nov 13 2003, Posts 268

+ 1 for extended and con sordino

Posted on Sun, Nov 06 2016 17:22
by clruwe
Joined on Sat, May 07 2011, Posts 100
Originally Posted by: steff3 Go to Quoted Post
+ 1 for extended and con sordino


No harmonics, ponticello, sul tasto? For that price? I can understand that mutes require a whole other session, but basic articulations like these are a must in almost any contemporary composition...!

I think VSL really needs to update its business model, especially considering the huge competition they have these days. 10 years ago they were perhaps the only realistically playable instruments, but now they need to step up and, like in the past, offer features that nobody else is doing.

There's not even a loyalty reward for those of us who have spent thousands in their products. I'm always getting bundle offers for instruments I already own. How about giving me a good deal to finish my collection for the instruments I don't have? i.e. Bassoon 2, Wagner Tuba, etc.
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Posted on Mon, Nov 07 2016 13:44
by Angelus
Joined on Mon, Jul 23 2007, Wiltshire, UK, Posts 27

My initial surprise at Solo Violin 2 soon faded to dismay when I saw that the articulations didn't match those of Solo Violin 1. For someone who has had to make do with a transposed SV1 in their string quartet work, I still have to resequence the whole second violin part if I want a "real" second violin. And no marcato????? It's one of the most common articulations.

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Posted on Mon, Nov 07 2016 14:01
by mh-7635
Joined on Wed, Aug 04 2004, Posts 188

I agree with Angelus and clruwe.

I'm in the market for some solo string options and am very disappointed with this offering. Sorry VSL, this time my money is going elsewhere......

P.S...still waiting for a violin 2 section too.

Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 00:23
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5443

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Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 01:04
by Bill
Joined on Fri, Sep 23 2005, Berkshires. MA USA, Posts 926

And these negative coments are coming from those that don't even own them. These instruments are fabulous, with incredible nuances of tone and dynamics.

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Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 01:44
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5443

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Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 07:30
by mh-7635
Joined on Wed, Aug 04 2004, Posts 188

Careful who you call a troll William. Your tone (yet again) is a disgrace. Some of us have a very good musical education and some are good composers. Criticism of a library that does not include  articulations that have been set as a precedent is valid. Nobody expects, nor wants to be insulted by idiots like you because we don't doff our caps every time VSL speaks, so why not play nice and show some respect to your peers.

I am a fully paid up member to VSL, owning most of their products, I respect the company and am grateful that I can give honest, sincere feedback to them without any need for fawning on this forum. Perhaps they might find negative feedback more useful than your gushing sycophancy.

VSL has good competition and whilst I still think they are the best, there is a danger that they will fall behind.

Bill, I don't need to own them -  I know what articulations I need for my scores and I know how and where  to use them, will that do?

Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 09:18
by fiestared
Joined on Wed, Sep 01 2010, France, Posts 44

Hi Mike(mh-7635)

(out of topic)

I went to your site and I must say it's a model of elegance and class... Also, congrats for your work, your touch is clearly "elegance" you know "how to write "for orchestra and especially "Strings". For me it's always a pleasure to discover talented people. Again congrats for your work.

F.

Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 13:24
by mh-7635
Joined on Wed, Aug 04 2004, Posts 188

Hi Fiestared,

Thank you for your kind words. I'm so pleased you liked some of my music - compliments from fellow composers mean just that bit more.

Mike.

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