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Posted on Wed, May 31 2017 06:10
by TimBlast
Joined on Wed, Jun 17 2015, Los Angeles, Posts 38

Hi! 

I have been trying to figure out why some instances take significly more time to load up in VE PRO 6 that others.

Here is my template set-up... I work in Cubase 9 Pro on my master pc, have a huge template of about 800 midi tracks for articulations that feed of my slave server pc. On the Slave server i have ve pro 6 running with 40 instances (16 kontakt instruments in each).

When I turn the VE PRO on, and start loading the template, all instances load up fairly quick... about 10 seconds per instance... except 3 instances, 2 of them take about 10 minutes to load and one takes almost 20 minutes to load. Its always the same instances. I have tried batch resaving every kontakt instrument library I have in those instances but it didn't help. I also tried deleteing the libraries and reinstalling them but still no improvement. 

I believe its because Kontakt does something weird... maybe it takes time because it cannot find the path to some library, I just cant pinpoint what exactly is causing it to take so long. If anyone has or had any simlar experience please share:) I appricate the replies in advance! 

PS the libraries that are in the "3 instances that take too much time to load" are : CINESAMPLES CINEPERC PRO and CORE, HEAVYOCITY GRAVITY, WIDE BLUE SOUND ECLIPSE, 8DIO SYNPHONY, HYBRID TOOLS

 

THANK YOU! 

Tim Blast

Tim Blast
Film | TV | GAME | TRAILER MUSIC Composer / Producer
www.TimBlast.com
Cubase 10 PRO, MASTER PC : i9-9980XE, 64gb. Slave with VE PRO: double xeon with 256 GB RAM
Posted on Thu, Jun 01 2017 20:36
by TimBlast
Joined on Wed, Jun 17 2015, Los Angeles, Posts 38

Anyone?:)

Tim Blast
Film | TV | GAME | TRAILER MUSIC Composer / Producer
www.TimBlast.com
Cubase 10 PRO, MASTER PC : i9-9980XE, 64gb. Slave with VE PRO: double xeon with 256 GB RAM
Posted on Thu, Jun 01 2017 22:39
by emotive
Joined on Mon, Apr 21 2014, Posts 27

From personal experience, I try to balance instruments in the host and slave (VEPro) on the one machine.

I have not used the local network for any further slave instances and I would probably implement VST System Link in any case.

I did find that the buffer setting in VEPro as instanced by Cubase is best set at 2 (seems to be crashing less that way).

I think there is a limit on what localhost can handle MIDI wise so I'd be careful about that, particularly with drum plugins which I am as of now migrating back to the host.

As for Kontakt or any NI stuff, it's no longer in use on my machine unfortunately since I don't believe they have a VST 2.4 version that meets VST3 requirements so YMMV but saying that I don't have issues with any of ToonTrack stuff however there are MIDI and GUI components to the VST spec.

Posted on Fri, Jun 02 2017 23:12
by dlpmusic
Joined on Sun, Jan 19 2003, Posts 256

I have moved to split each Kontakt out to its own "instance".  I can tell you from experience that Cinesample libraries I have slow down just as you describe.  I have Cineperc and Cinewinds....they will probably be my last unfortunately from them because of this problem.

 

Originally Posted by: TimBlast Go to Quoted Post

Hi! 

I have been trying to figure out why some instances take significly more time to load up in VE PRO 6 that others.

Here is my template set-up... I work in Cubase 9 Pro on my master pc, have a huge template of about 800 midi tracks for articulations that feed of my slave server pc. On the Slave server i have ve pro 6 running with 40 instances (16 kontakt instruments in each).

When I turn the VE PRO on, and start loading the template, all instances load up fairly quick... about 10 seconds per instance... except 3 instances, 2 of them take about 10 minutes to load and one takes almost 20 minutes to load. Its always the same instances. I have tried batch resaving every kontakt instrument library I have in those instances but it didn't help. I also tried deleteing the libraries and reinstalling them but still no improvement. 

I believe its because Kontakt does something weird... maybe it takes time because it cannot find the path to some library, I just cant pinpoint what exactly is causing it to take so long. If anyone has or had any simlar experience please share:) I appricate the replies in advance! 

PS the libraries that are in the "3 instances that take too much time to load" are : CINESAMPLES CINEPERC PRO and CORE, HEAVYOCITY GRAVITY, WIDE BLUE SOUND ECLIPSE, 8DIO SYNPHONY, HYBRID TOOLS

 

THANK YOU! 

Tim Blast

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