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Last post Wed, Aug 22 2018 by fahl5, 4 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Aug 22 2018 16:56
by Arsenal
Joined on Sat, Nov 26 2016, Posts 16

 

Hello,

what are your prefered ways to switch articulations right now?

 

Im still trying to found out if there is a option or workaround to switch through articulations via programm changes (PG) or at least CC

Right now I switch my VIPRO-Tracks with program changes inside the midi events.
In order to copy events from a VIPRO-based track to a SynchronPlayer-based I would need to able to be able to switch via PG and also match the same values.

- I am not able to have the switch learn program change - 

Im trying to avoid using keyswitches all together in the future

 

Thanks for your help

Posted on Wed, Aug 22 2018 18:27
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Hall One, Posts 953

Just click on the White Field under "Articulation" (you can do that of course also with every Articulation Dimention like "Vel.Range", "Type", Vibrato", "Attack" or your own added or programmed Dimension) and you will find a menu to chose the for your need most appropriate way to controle the Articulationswitch you can chose beside "Note" and "White note" not nly "Program Change". If you like to use a CC instead you could chose one of the 8 available "Dimension controler".

In the "Controle" panel below the Articulationswitch section you can configure in which way each of the Controlersliders and "Dimension Controles" your use are triggered. Among  (others you find also "Controler" which allows you to asign a certain CC to the Dimension controle you have chosen.)

To be clear, this is just a regulary possible way to make use of the highly customizable Synchronplayer. So no "workaround" is needed at all.

In short: However if you want to use CC for Articulationselection no problem just chose them.

I hope I was able to help

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Posted on Wed, Aug 22 2018 18:40
by Arsenal
Joined on Sat, Nov 26 2016, Posts 16

Thank you!

I am only able to switch via Dimensions via CC (instead of PG).

Which means in VIPro I would be limited to just 12 cells, am I correct?

 

That bothers me because I wanted to setup all my VIPro Instances and Synchron Player the same way concercing switching (Program Change). 

for example PG20 being Legato Regular for every instrument wether VIPRO or SP

That way I would be able to move midi events from every instrument to another and be free of keyswitching

 

Thanks everyone

 

 

EDIT: I really cant get Synchron Player to learn that for example Dim.Ctrl.F should be controlled by Program Change

Posted on Wed, Aug 22 2018 19:37
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Hall One, Posts 953

Originally Posted by: Arsenal Go to Quoted Post

I am only able to switch via Dimensions via CC (instead of PG).

No it should even more simple to directly asign a starting PG Number for the positions of an Articulation Dimension. You do not need inevitably to chose the dimension controler at all.

Originally Posted by: Arsenal Go to Quoted Post

Which means in VIPro I would be limited to just 12 cells, am I correct?

Sorry, I cant follow you. What excactly should limit the amount of cells in a Synchron-Player Articulation dimension? You know that PG provide 127 Numbers should be enough.

But perhaps you are right, if you mean you want to configure a kind of universal Articulationswitch standard Like the Spitfire UACC. Since I confess I fear currently you can only set the beginning PG Number from which the following Cells get the next Nmubers. At least I currently do not know how to asign a certain single  Articulöation in a Articulation-dimension-cell directly to a certain Number without the following Cell will get the directly following Number.

 

Originally Posted by: Arsenal Go to Quoted Post

That bothers me because I wanted to setup all my VIPro Instances and Synchron Player the same way concercing switching (Program Change). 

for example PG20 being Legato Regular for every instrument wether VIPRO or SP

That way I would be able to move midi events from every instrument to another and be free of keyswitching

As far as I know, you can not controle neither the X nor the Y-the Axis of the VI-Pro with PG-change values at all!

If it should really be "the same way" as in VIPro, I think you should have not that problem, since in VI Pro you can only decide to use Program change instead Keyswitches for the Matrix-Selection and if you did so it automatically beghinns counting starting with PG 1. So this is also possible in the Synchronplayer just chose in the Menu of the White Field af "Articulation" the forth Position in the Menu "Program change" and chose the 1 and the Matrix selection of your VI-Pro will react similar to the "Articulation"-Dimension in Synchron-Player.

However since you can controile in VI-Pro only the Matrixselection either with Keyswitch or Programchange but not the X- and Y-Axis of a certain Matrix in VI-Pro. I can not see any possibility to asigne a certain cell to a certain PG-Value.

 

Originally Posted by: Arsenal Go to Quoted Post

 

EDIT: I really cant get Synchron Player to learn that for example Dim.Ctrl.F should be controlled by Program Change

That is right. the Dimension Controler could not be controled by Program change, but you can chose any of the regular 127 CC's instead.

However as I said you do not need a Dimension Controler if you want to select tha positions of a Articulation Dimension by Program change as I said chose it directly in the Menu that pops up in the White field under the Name of your Articulation-Dimension.

I hope that helps

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3648 mp3 with a whole Week (=7 Days /=171 hours) of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de
a) ...Synchron-Strings explored in 40 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Strings.

b) ...Synchron-Steinway explored in 48 mp3 with nearly three hours of complete and ambitious scores from 18th 19th 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Steinway.
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