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Forest Fairytale (synchron-ized appassionata strings demo)
Last post Sun, Sep 09 2018 by agitato, 14 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Sep 04 2018 00:45
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1986

 

Here is a demo using synchron-ized appassionata strings. The inspiration for the main theme is from late romantic period. Hope you enjoy!

Forest Fairytale

(more demos on the VSL demos section)

Posted on Tue, Sep 04 2018 01:17
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5513

Guy that is great.  It has a huge range of expression, and mastery of performance.  The composition is really imaginative, in a wonderful Romantic idiom, and shows your expertise in characteristic pianistic writing as well as orchestration.  It ia another example of how you have gone so far beyond mere "demos" and made these miniature works into an art form.  There is a true genius to what you have done here, and in so many of your performances and composiitons.  

Posted on Tue, Sep 04 2018 08:34
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Göttingen, Posts 953

Nice romantic piano-concert movement. I think this is quite a good Demo for the application of Appasionata in some aspects of romantic music.

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3648 mp3 with a whole Week (=7 Days /=171 hours) of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de
a) ...Synchron-Strings explored in 40 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Strings.

b) ...Synchron-Steinway explored in 48 mp3 with nearly three hours of complete and ambitious scores from 18th 19th 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Steinway.
Posted on Thu, Sep 06 2018 19:55
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1986

Originally Posted by: William Go to Quoted Post

Guy that is great.  It has a huge range of expression, and mastery of performance.  The composition is really imaginative, in a wonderful Romantic idiom, and shows your expertise in characteristic pianistic writing as well as orchestration.  It ia another example of how you have gone so far beyond mere "demos" and made these miniature works into an art form.  There is a true genius to what you have done here, and in so many of your performances and composiitons.  

That is quite a compliment William, thanks a lot! Always nice coming from a great artist as yourself. 

Posted on Fri, Sep 07 2018 02:07
by synergy543
Joined on Fri, Apr 01 2005, Posts 133

Such a beautiful creation from mere samples of audio snippets. 

It really shows what is possible with the brush in the hands of a true artist.  Lovely work Guy!

Greg (Gregory D. Moore)
Posted on Fri, Sep 07 2018 09:18
by mw design
Joined on Thu, Dec 05 2013, Posts 258

sounds great Guy, do you use lot of EQ here ? How You would compare the Sample Clarity between the Orginal Series and the Synchronized Series ?

Posted on Fri, Sep 07 2018 10:10
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 351

Really nice, Guy! Haven't used those strings for a loooong time but they still hold up pretty well, and that semi-dark, very expressive tone fits this piece perfectly. Love the piano too btw - is this VSL's Imperial or....?

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Fri, Sep 07 2018 11:06
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Göttingen, Posts 953

Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn Go to Quoted Post

Really nice, Guy! Haven't used those strings for a loooong time but they still hold up pretty well, and that semi-dark, very expressive tone fits this piece perfectly. Love the piano too btw - is this VSL's Imperial or....?

Presumably the Yamaha CFX isn't it?

(imho still the best currently available VSL-Pianos, while I am still waiting for the Synchron-Steinway)

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3648 mp3 with a whole Week (=7 Days /=171 hours) of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de
a) ...Synchron-Strings explored in 40 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Strings.

b) ...Synchron-Steinway explored in 48 mp3 with nearly three hours of complete and ambitious scores from 18th 19th 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Steinway.
Posted on Sat, Sep 08 2018 22:05
by agitato
Joined on Mon, Jun 22 2015, Posts 389

Just heard the full piece. And  .... Wow! This sounds like Rachmaninoff just woke up from the dead and wrote it! (I mean that as a compliment...not implying that you arent original.).

Guy, why don't you please write a full piano concerto with this as a central movement ?

What is astounding is that this is not only a first-rate composition in the style of early to mid 20th century romantic (hope I am correct...not very thorough with music history!) , but also performed beautifully by the composer himself on the piano. On top of that the composer did all the sequencing and production with software. That is like six professions rolled into one. Hats off to you!

I often find that sampled music sounds much better in headphones than in speakers...(not sure why), so I listened to this piece in my good speakers as as stronger test of fidelty, and it sounded very realistic. You hide any shortcomings of samples so well.

Around 5:28, I hear something sounding like a foot pedal release or some other acoustic, hall noise. So Id make a wild guess that you recorded it live in your studio ;) Or did you deliberately put that in??! Anyways that ambient noise adds a nice touch of realism

So glad to be in the company of some outstanding composers on this forum (Guy, William, Errikos, Mike Hewer and more). Hope I learn something from here, someday.

Cheers

Anand

Anand Kumar
Posted on Sun, Sep 09 2018 05:28
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1986

Originally Posted by: synergy543 Go to Quoted Post

Such a beautiful creation from mere samples of audio snippets. 

It really shows what is possible with the brush in the hands of a true artist.  Lovely work Guy!

Thanks Greg! Once you get carried away by the emotion of the music you seem to start forgetting you are using samples, which is the magic this artform. 

Posted on Sun, Sep 09 2018 05:32
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1986

Originally Posted by: mw design Go to Quoted Post

sounds great Guy, do you use lot of EQ here ? How You would compare the Sample Clarity between the Orginal Series and the Synchronized Series ?

Thanks mw design!

No EQ. Not sure if there was some very low frequency cuts in the final output. 

Posted on Sun, Sep 09 2018 05:35
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1986

Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn Go to Quoted Post

Really nice, Guy! Haven't used those strings for a loooong time but they still hold up pretty well, and that semi-dark, very expressive tone fits this piece perfectly. Love the piano too btw - is this VSL's Imperial or....?

Thanks Simon!

Yes, the semi dark tone, mainly with cellos worked well.

Piano is CFX Yamaha. 

Posted on Sun, Sep 09 2018 05:54
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1986

Originally Posted by: agitato Go to Quoted Post

Just heard the full piece. And  .... Wow! This sounds like Rachmaninoff just woke up from the dead and wrote it! (I mean that as a compliment...not implying that you arent original.).

Guy, why don't you please write a full piano concerto with this as a central movement ?

What is astounding is that this is not only a first-rate composition in the style of early to mid 20th century romantic (hope I am correct...not very thorough with music history!) , but also performed beautifully by the composer himself on the piano. On top of that the composer did all the sequencing and production with software. That is like six professions rolled into one. Hats off to you!

I often find that sampled music sounds much better in headphones than in speakers...(not sure why), so I listened to this piece in my good speakers as as stronger test of fidelty, and it sounded very realistic. You hide any shortcomings of samples so well.

Around 5:28, I hear something sounding like a foot pedal release or some other acoustic, hall noise. So Id make a wild guess that you recorded it live in your studio ;) Or did you deliberately put that in??! Anyways that ambient noise adds a nice touch of realism

So glad to be in the company of some outstanding composers on this forum (Guy, William, Errikos, Mike Hewer and more). Hope I learn something from here, someday.

Cheers

Anand

 

Thanks Anand!

For sure, Rach was a big inspiration, no hiding in that. 

About writing a complete concerto, well it might not be seen as something original enough to attrack concert pianists, I don't know, or would it?  I'd have to add a ton of dissonances... :) 

Glad it sounded good on headphones, I didn't try it with headphones, but your headphones must very sensitive cause I can'thear anything at 5:28 from my speakers. So no, it's not some hall noise effect, besides I don't believe that chair sounds and all the other noises do anything to make a piece sound more natural. 

Posted on Sun, Sep 09 2018 14:04
by agitato
Joined on Mon, Jun 22 2015, Posts 389

Originally Posted by: Guy Bacos Go to Quoted Post

Thanks Anand!

For sure, Rach was a big inspiration, no hiding in that. 

About writing a complete concerto, well it might not be seen as something original enough to attrack concert pianists, I don't know, or would it?  I'd have to add a ton of dissonances... :) 

I am sure you can throw in dissonances and resolve them as well :). Anyways I hope you would someday write a full concerto at least with VSL for all of us to enjoy.

Originally Posted by: Guy Bacos Go to Quoted Post

Glad it sounded good on headphones, I didn't try it with headphones, but your headphones must very sensitive cause I can'thear anything at 5:28 from my speakers. So no, it's not some hall noise effect, besides I don't believe that chair sounds and all the other noises do anything to make a piece sound more natural. 

I actually checked it a few more times and I do hear the ambient sound...(its a pretty short one, much like a pedal being released lightly), and in fact I hear it at more than one place: at 5:03 and 5:16 as well. Not that it matters to the music at all, but I am curious where this is coming from and if anyone else can hear it. 

(I agree it doesnt make the music more natural but when I said it adds to the realism...I meant that it gives the impression it was a live recording, as if you are sitting in the hall.)

Best

Anand

Anand Kumar
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