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Posted on Thu, Oct 04 2018 17:23
by Pieman1560
Joined on Mon, May 07 2018, Gloucestershire, UK, Posts 31

Hi Everyone

I've done a video of how it works and will post a link to youtube once its uploaded

Have a good one

Paul

Posted on Thu, Oct 04 2018 19:07
by Pieman1560
Joined on Mon, May 07 2018, Gloucestershire, UK, Posts 31

Hi Everyone

As promised attached are links to the videos 

This shows the software working

https://youtu.be/SGeiGbYES8E

This shows it working in Ensamble

https://youtu.be/vrxN3xSqVyQ

I hope this helps

Kindest 

Paul

Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 04:08
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2557

Hello

I have bought  https://www.babylonwaves.com/logic-pro/

Just looking at the Solo Violin I have remark that the Up and Down bow articulation where missing.

I have contact Marc, the develloper, and I kindly ask him if he could add Up and Dow bow

The answer was NO, he said it was too much to add UP and Down Bow on each articulation !!!!

Then I ask him only to add on the levell II patch :

Stroke Up and Stroke down

And to kindly refund me if he does not want to do it

His answer is :

>>>>No refund

>>>>Feel free to add whatever you want, there is no reason why you cannot extend the articulation sets yourself. 

it's a kindly f...up

 

Looking at the contents send with the Violin I have found strange articulation sending ; in Violin Levell II he is sending 3 articulations !! I have never seen this before, I have to check this when I return to the studio

 

If you think you will have acces to all articulations of an instrument, you can dream, BabylonWare only allow you 32  articulations for the Solo Violin Levell II

So if I was you I will wait to buy this BabylonWave. I will do extensive test mid November

A company that does not want to make it's software evolve does not need to exist

I have also found that the keyboard articulations are not provided, and only the Tympany is provided for percussions

I hope the VSL is going to give us a good Expression Mapping for Logic.

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 17:36
by Pieman1560
Joined on Mon, May 07 2018, Gloucestershire, UK, Posts 31

Hi Cyril

I can't help think that your being a bit harsh really, given the functionaltity it gives users of Logic now (the 1st time its been updated for VSL).

I've used this for a while with other software libraries and they add more features all the time. Considering this version was released the same week Logic updated to 10.4.2 i think they've done a brilliant job in offering what they do so soon after a major update and its only a matter of time before it gets better

Kindest regards

Paul

Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 18:26
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2557

Originally Posted by: Pieman1560 Go to Quoted Post

i think they've done a brilliant job in offering what they do so soon after a major update and its only a matter of time before it gets better

 

I have also been very surprised of there non professionnal answer

Let's wait and see

Maybe Marc is going to be more resonnable 

I forgot also to mention that there are no Dimension libs supported neither VSO

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Oct 12 2018 17:47
by babylonwaves
Joined on Fri, Feb 13 2004, , Posts 6

Articilation sets are designed to select an articulation. If you want add an information such as Bow Up or Bow Down, you practically double the amount of artulations. Here's why:

"Spiccato" becomes "Spiccato Up Bow" and a second articulation "Spiccato Down Bow". And that would happen for staccato, detache and all other applicable articulations. The articulation list for Vienna Instruments is already faily substantial and once you keep in mind that there are key switches for each articulation it becomes clear that adding Up/Down bowing is not a really good idea. I have tried to explain that to you in my first reply - in a friendly way.

What you really want is 2 articulations which are just there to show the relevant symbol is score and that's something which might work for you but is fairly confusing for the most of us. Those articulations would select no articulation and if you, for instance, have one of those at the beginning of a sequence of note, Logic would simply not know what articulation to switch to. Again, this might work for you but I personally think it's a bad idea in the context of what the most of us do.

"I just ask you to add an articulation for every Level II string two articulations : Up Bow and down bow, I will deal with them in my score. If you dont want to do it I want a refund !"

If you would have looked at my website, you'd learned that there is no refund. And also, that Dimension Strings are not supported. IF you would have asked me in a nicer fashion, instead of backmailing me, I would have refunded your purchase.

Best, Marc

Posted on Fri, Oct 12 2018 21:27
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2557

Originally Posted by: babylonwaves Go to Quoted Post

 And also, that Dimension Strings are not supported. IF you would have asked me in a nicer fashion, instead of backmailing me, I would have refunded your purchase.

Best, Marc

That was my 1st mail :





Message: Hello
I Just bought the Art Conductor for Logic
You did a great work, producing VSL libs so soon after 10.4.2

I have noticed the Up and Down bow articulation are missing (A0 and B0)
Do you have any plans on adding :
For VSL :
- Dimension Libraries
- Keyboards and percussions

For EW
- QLSC

Genesis

Maximo String, Wind and Brass
RE-READ the exchange of mail !
My second mail was :






Hello Marc
 
Thanks for your answer
 
Can't you define a CC for Up/dow bow ? that should not cause any problem


 
Or up to the user to use a note with velocity zero to set the articulation and after you use UP/Down bow !
 
You offer the possibility, up to the user to use it or not
  Best regards

Cyril Blanc
  Your answer had always been NO
  You dont know how to treat your clients
  It is your client that are buying your devellopement 





MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
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