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Last post Wed, May 08 2019 by musicman691, 435 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 15:37
by SonicSonar
Joined on Mon, Sep 17 2012, Posts 62

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi LAJ, 

The german word "Vorfreude" captures what we feel here in Vienna pretty well: I'd translate it with "pleasant anticipation".

More features will be announced as soon as I am 100% sure that everything they work as they should, in all possible environments. Will definitely keep you in the loop!

BTW: We just added our Giant Taiko drum as a BONUS and THANK YOU for all early adopters 
Find the download file here

Best, 
Paul

 

Hi Paul,

I hope VSL has learned their lesson from this fiasco.  

Windows 10
128 gig ram
i7 6850

Cubase 10
Finale 26
Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 19:09
by Adia
Joined on Sat, Feb 06 2016, Posts 121

Hello,

I have just upgraded 2 licencses of VEP6 to VE7.

I own 3 licenses, what will happen with the third one for VEP6?

2. Where will be the promised Taiko Drum access?

Keep up the good work, I believe the VEP is the best thing that could happen to musician ever. It  is good that you can invest in a powerful PC that is cheaper than a second Mac for your DAW, so there is alwyas a benefit.

Tell me please, do you have ANY plans, because the worst thing for me is that

1. you have to map automations through automation 2. That it is not compatibile with NI Complete, a pity and 3. Logic MULTI output, this is the most sad thing. Do you work on it?

 

with best regards

Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 19:16
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12189

Hi Adia, 

1) Your VE PRO 6 licenses will stay as they are. 

2) Bonus files can be found with your Synchron Library Downloads

3) More information as soon as our features are confirmed!

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 19:31
by andyjh
Joined on Wed, Dec 15 2010, Posts 600

I notice from an email from VSL that the introductory offer expires on Feb 28th,  so if we don't get more info on what VEP7 is before then,  will this introductory offer be extended ?  or do we really just have to buy something and hope it does something we want ?

Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 20:44
by Remoteguy
Joined on Sat, Feb 23 2019, Posts 14

I am very confused why everyone is so hostile about this release. I just purchased it. With a very modest investment I am recieving version 6, I will have version 7 when it is released. The new Epic Orchestra 2.0 is 10 times the size of the previous version, and it has Synchron compatibilty with some samples.  It is included for free yet some people are still complaining about it. Sounds like people are upset about having to pay to upgrade to a newer version, but this is normal with most software. You will still have your multiple license verision of 6 to use if you have invested in it, And nothing is to stop you from purchasing one or two upgrade licenses if you need them. I think it is a great deal and I look forward to using it. 

Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 21:13
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Posts 138

Originally Posted by: andyjh Go to Quoted Post

I notice from an email from VSL that the introductory offer expires on Feb 28th,  so if we don't get more info on what VEP7 is before then,  will this introductory offer be extended ?  or do we really just have to buy something and hope it does something we want ?

The emails I got from both VSL and ILIO on Feb 19 did not have an expiration date for the intro offer. Where did you see the date you mention?

Jack
PT 2019.6 and DP 9.52 on OSX 10.13.6
Qapla!
Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 21:16
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Posts 138

Originally Posted by: Remoteguy Go to Quoted Post

I am very confused why everyone is so hostile about this release. I just purchased it. With a very modest investment I am recieving version 6, I will have version 7 when it is released. The new Epic Orchestra 2.0 is 10 times the size of the previous version, and it has Synchron compatibilty with some samples.  It is included for free yet some people are still complaining about it. Sounds like people are upset about having to pay to upgrade to a newer version, but this is normal with most software. You will still have your multiple license verision of 6 to use if you have invested in it, And nothing is to stop you from purchasing one or two upgrade licenses if you need them. I think it is a great deal and I look forward to using it. 

The problem is NOT having to pay for the upgrade to version 7 but having to pay extra to keep the same amount of licenses one already has. With the upgrade you actually lose 2 licenses if you don't pay extra for them. I've never seen a program where you lose the amount of licenses you get when a new version comes out.

Jack
PT 2019.6 and DP 9.52 on OSX 10.13.6
Qapla!
Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 21:36
by Adia
Joined on Sat, Feb 06 2016, Posts 121
I have 3 licenses of VEP6. I bought 2 upgrades to 7. Have I lost 2 licenses because I am confused??
Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 21:54
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Posts 138

Originally Posted by: Adia Go to Quoted Post
I have 3 licenses of VEP6. I bought 2 upgrades to 7. Have I lost 2 licenses because I am confused??
Why did you buy two upgrades? You only needed one upgrade and pay for any extra licenses at a lower price.

Jack
PT 2019.6 and DP 9.52 on OSX 10.13.6
Qapla!
Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 22:05
by Adia
Joined on Sat, Feb 06 2016, Posts 121

This is what I did, so WHAT have I lost acording to you?

Originally Posted by: musicman691 Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Adia Go to Quoted Post
I have 3 licenses of VEP6. I bought 2 upgrades to 7. Have I lost 2 licenses because I am confused??
Why did you buy two upgrades? You only needed one upgrade and pay for any extra licenses at a lower price.

Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 22:13
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Posts 138

Originally Posted by: Adia Go to Quoted Post

This is what I did, so WHAT have I lost acording to you?

Originally Posted by: musicman691 Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Adia Go to Quoted Post
I have 3 licenses of VEP6. I bought 2 upgrades to 7. Have I lost 2 licenses because I am confused??
Why did you buy two upgrades? You only needed one upgrade and pay for any extra licenses at a lower price.

Now you have two licenses - one on each VEPro 7 upgrade. Again - why did you buy two upgrades? You didn't lose anything except for some money. But compared to VEPro 6 you're down one license asset.

Jack
PT 2019.6 and DP 9.52 on OSX 10.13.6
Qapla!
Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 22:28
by Remoteguy
Joined on Sat, Feb 23 2019, Posts 14

Originally Posted by: musicman691 Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Remoteguy Go to Quoted Post

I am very confused why everyone is so hostile about this release. I just purchased it. With a very modest investment I am recieving version 6, I will have version 7 when it is released. The new Epic Orchestra 2.0 is 10 times the size of the previous version, and it has Synchron compatibilty with some samples.  It is included for free yet some people are still complaining about it. Sounds like people are upset about having to pay to upgrade to a newer version, but this is normal with most software. You will still have your multiple license verision of 6 to use if you have invested in it, And nothing is to stop you from purchasing one or two upgrade licenses if you need them. I think it is a great deal and I look forward to using it. 

The problem is NOT having to pay for the upgrade to version 7 but having to pay extra to keep the same amount of licenses one already has. With the upgrade you actually lose 2 licenses if you don't pay extra for them. I've never seen a program where you lose the amount of licenses you get when a new version comes out.

You don't lose two licenses. You don't lose any licenses. However you do have to pay to upgrade each license if you want them to be on version 7. Nothing is stopping you from using your other 2 version 6 licenses as nobody has taken them away from you.  I am not trying to be unsympethetic to your situation, but upgrades are completely at your discretion. And it sounds like you only need one license for a Master and a Slave computer....

Posted on Sat, Feb 23 2019 23:33
by pablo1980
Joined on Tue, Jul 10 2012, Posts 18
Originally Posted by: Remoteguy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: musicman691 Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Remoteguy Go to Quoted Post

I am very confused why everyone is so hostile about this release. I just purchased it. With a very modest investment I am recieving version 6, I will have version 7 when it is released. The new Epic Orchestra 2.0 is 10 times the size of the previous version, and it has Synchron compatibilty with some samples. It is included for free yet some people are still complaining about it. Sounds like people are upset about having to pay to upgrade to a newer version, but this is normal with most software. You will still have your multiple license verision of 6 to use if you have invested in it, And nothing is to stop you from purchasing one or two upgrade licenses if you need them. I think it is a great deal and I look forward to using it.
The problem is NOT having to pay for the upgrade to version 7 but having to pay extra to keep the same amount of licenses one already has. With the upgrade you actually lose 2 licenses if you don't pay extra for them. I've never seen a program where you lose the amount of licenses you get when a new version comes out.

You don't lose two licenses. You don't lose any licenses. However you do have to pay to upgrade each license if you want them to be on version 7. Nothing is stopping you from using your other 2 version 6 licenses as nobody has taken them away from you. I am not trying to be unsympethetic to your situation, but upgrades are completely at your discretion. And it sounds like you only need one license for a Master and a Slave computer....


Yes but upgrading is the way to keep current, and updated, so in a way for some people the price for keeping up to date has doubled.
Posted on Sun, Feb 24 2019 00:23
by adriaantaylor
Joined on Tue, Sep 30 2014, Boston MA US, Posts 57

I only see 1 license on one of my iLok's

I too had the 3 license setup from before 

Posted on Sun, Feb 24 2019 01:01
by littlewierdo
Joined on Sun, Apr 24 2016, Posts 236

VEP 6 is $285.

VEP 7 is $75 for the first license...

plus $45 for the second...

plus $45 for the third...

My math shows that to upgrade all three is $165. That is 58% of the cost of VEP 6, not double.

Posted on Sun, Feb 24 2019 01:34
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Posts 138

Originally Posted by: adriaantaylor Go to Quoted Post

I only see 1 license on one of my iLok's

I too had the 3 license setup from before 

VEPro does not use iLok. Even on the Vienna key you'll only see 1 license for VEPro 6; the other 2 (if unused) would still be in your Vienna account.

Jack
PT 2019.6 and DP 9.52 on OSX 10.13.6
Qapla!
Posted on Sun, Feb 24 2019 03:17
by pablo1980
Joined on Tue, Jul 10 2012, Posts 18
Originally Posted by: littlewierdo Go to Quoted Post
VEP 6 is $285.
VEP 7 is $75 for the first license...
plus $45 for the second...
plus $45 for the third...
My math shows that to upgrade all three is $165. That is 58% of the cost of VEP 6, not double.


I was refrering to the cost of upgrading against the previous upgrading cost. It has indeed double due to a business decision.

Upgrade from 5 to 6 (with the three licenses) was 85 Euros (100 after preorder) so in order to UPGRADE and keep using three systems, and stay current for future developments, the cost has doubled from previous upgrades.

Again, I will not attempt to dictate the business path of the developers, they should charge whatever they think the market will pay, and they have developed a peoduct which hs no competition, but I sure understand why some users feel a little baffled about this business policy change.
Posted on Sun, Feb 24 2019 03:31
by teknojunque
Joined on Sun, Oct 29 2017, Posts 2

Originally Posted by: daviddln Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: David Molina Go to Quoted Post

Wow, I would really hate to have you all as customers. They haven't disclosed all the details yet and you guys are already whinning about things you don't know yet. Just be patient and wait for them to reveal all the details. Once they reveal everything and you still don't like it, send them an email. Amazing.

I totally agree with that. People were complaining about the fact that you had to buy the whole bundle again to get a 4th license, and now that you can buy individual licenses, they're still complaining. If the upgrade contained the three licenses, the price would have been much higher than 75 euros. And the Epic Orchestra 2.0 is a free bonus but they're even complaining about that. So yes, definitly the worst custommers ever.

There's a great solution to that. Include three licenses with the base package and then sell additional licenses at the given price.  

It's pretty clear to me that people are simply saying that the upgrade costs too much. If it was $75 from VE5 to VE6 for three licenses, then it should be comparable from VE6 to VE7. You can't argue that the price would be higher if more licenses were included and then also argue that it isn't higher because the extra fluff is included. 

Beyond that, I'm definitely on the side of "who cares about epic orchestra."  For that matter, I don't care about the VSL effects either, I have plenty of effects, they work great.  VSL should realize that at least some of their customers for this product have almost no interest in orchestral libraries at all.  Yes, I use all three license, and yes, I use networking, and, for me, the networking is the only reason I own, and recommend, the product in the first place. I'd be willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of customers who only own VEP actually do use the networking and may feel similarly. 

This product is useful to people outside of VSL's typical customer base. Instead of treating us like your orchestral customers why don't you guys consider trying to market more effectively to non-orchestral customers who need this kind of solution.

Posted on Sun, Feb 24 2019 03:45
by olenga
Joined on Tue, Apr 04 2017, Posts 8
Hello.
I am very disappointed about this upgrade. It will be very expensive to have many licenses.
I really don't need Epic orchestra and all this plug ins, you say it's free. That is why your upgrade price are so expensive, because you put all this shit in Vepro 7 that many of us not need, and will never use.
I really hope you will come with an upgrade without Epic orchestra and plug in.
Posted on Sun, Feb 24 2019 12:26
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Posts 138

I think this may have already been posted but here goes anyway:

How about giving us an option of choosing between getting Epic Orchestra OR 3 license assets? And if someone really wants EO they pay extra for it?

Jack
PT 2019.6 and DP 9.52 on OSX 10.13.6
Qapla!
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