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Multiple Audio Outs from VEP instances
Last post Sun, Aug 25 2019 by civilization 3, 7 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Aug 23 2019 19:51
by LuCsa
Joined on Sat, Dec 19 2015, Vienna, Posts 120

Hello!

Unfortunately, I can't find the thread anymore where I found this, but I think I read that there might be problems with having too many audio outs from a VEP instance to the DAW. Is that in any way correct or was I dreaming...?

Thank you!
Lukas

i7-6700K (4 @ 4.0GHz w/ HT) - 16GB RAM
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Posted on Sat, Aug 24 2019 15:04
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1622

It uses a lot more CPU to return many outs. Try it using only a master out and see.

MacBook Pro 15,1: 2.9 GHz 6-core i9
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
OSX 10.14.5
VE Pro 7
Posted on Sat, Aug 24 2019 15:11
by LuCsa
Joined on Sat, Dec 19 2015, Vienna, Posts 120

Hmmokay... I wanted to do the mixing in the DAW, but...

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Posted on Sat, Aug 24 2019 21:31
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1501

Originally Posted by: LuCsa Go to Quoted Post

Hmmokay... I wanted to do the mixing in the DAW, but...

So just bounce the tracks and mix the audio?

What's the difference?


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Posted on Sun, Aug 25 2019 08:07
by LuCsa
Joined on Sat, Dec 19 2015, Vienna, Posts 120

Originally Posted by: jasensmith Go to Quoted Post

So just bounce the tracks and mix the audio?
What's the difference?

But bouncing the tracks implies having separate Audio Outs, doesn't it? Or what do you mean?

What CPU penalty are we talking about, actually?

Thanks!

i7-6700K (4 @ 4.0GHz w/ HT) - 16GB RAM
Windows 10 Home 64bit - Reaper - Finale 2012 - Dorico
---
VI Pro 2 - VEP7 - MIRx Sage
SE1 bundle - SE2 bundle - SE1 synch.
CSS - CSSSS
Posted on Sun, Aug 25 2019 19:27
by Itchy
Joined on Sat, Feb 18 2017, 45th parallel @ NY/VT/QC, Posts 26

If you wish to mix in your DAW & not via VE, and it's too much to throw all your virtual instruments out to the DAW at once... then you could try multiple passes outputting just a handful (or even 2) at a time of your tracks using the discreet available outputs you have. In any case, for sure, you yourself will learn how much re: cpu resources things require, sooner or later. Just go for it!

~Christopher
Posted on Sun, Aug 25 2019 23:38
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1622

I look at it like this: I enable outs fr. VE Pro according to simultaneous need, ie., stems.
I personally don't need to render stems 'en masse'. Pertaining to "CPU penalty" if you're going to return,  eg. 16 stereo outs, well, try and see how your system deals.

And, the Automation map in VE Pro puts it all in one list per instance. I mix that way, and I find Cubase for example is pretty clunky and time-consuming for this. So I mix in VE Pro essentially.

That said, I do render a fair amount, and commit. One maybe two instruments at a time albeit I tend to render the master with convolution reverb at the same time and gauge that to consolidate it later, something I don't waste much if any time with. If you're in a hurry and need massive stems, that's that; but I would recommend weighing actual needs vs some ideal, as it really does cost to run all those outputs.

MacBook Pro 15,1: 2.9 GHz 6-core i9
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
OSX 10.14.5
VE Pro 7
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