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VePro 7 and Beta AU3
Last post Thu, Sep 12 2019 by Dewdman42, 8 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2019 01:00
by gluppy
Joined on Tue, Oct 05 2010, Posts 18

Forgive my lack of knowledge, but I just saw the features of vePro 7 and it talks about the AU3 beta included.

What is this? And what does it do?

And more importantly, to me, is it a replacement for MidiOverLan?

I currently run about 40 midi ports (16 channels each) with MidiOverLan, and use External Midi to trigger my instruments in VePro running as AAX plugins in Pro Tools. As MidiOverLan is no longer sold by MusicLab, and Copper Midi doesn't have enough instruments, (and was too slow) a replacement is needed.

Please explain, as I can't seem to find any thing that explains exactly what it does.

Thanks

Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2019 10:50
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11305

Hi gluppy, 

AU 3 Beta is a feature that will work with Logic Pro (although, unfortunately, still very limited). 

You will get multiple ports with AAX and Pro Tools, and VE Pro takes care of your network communication. 

You will love it, give it a try with a free key-less demo license (saving and loading disabled). 

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2019 17:27
by gluppy
Joined on Tue, Oct 05 2010, Posts 18

I have DP on one computer, and Pro Tools on another mix computer, with VePro running in tadem on the mix computer. The audio from VePro feeds into Pro Tools, and I trigger the midi going out of the DP computer using MidiOverLan, going into the external midi of VePro on the mix computer.

Does the AU 3 Beta work with other platforms like DP, and will it do what I would like it to do. I am guessing, no.

Thanks

Alan

Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2019 19:07
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Posts 359

You don't need AU3 for DP, because there is already a MAS version of the plugin that does everything the AU3 can do and more.  Mainly AU3 is interesting for LogicPro users since they can't use the VST3 or MAS versions of the plugin.

The AU3 plugin can support up to 127 channels while MAS and VST3 support up to 768 midi channels per instance.

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Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2019 19:38
by gluppy
Joined on Tue, Oct 05 2010, Posts 18

Hi

I'm not running VePro in DP or the MAS version of it. VePro is on a different computer, giong straight into protools, and I need to trigger midi only from the DP computer. The audio From VePro is going into protools on the different computer.

Essentially I need the midi and audio of VePro split, and I thought the AU3 program was something new that did that.

Midi IP, copper midi, and other external midi programs all use Apple's midi code and are either too slow and unreliable, or don't provide enough midi channels for many people. MOL CP used a kext to give it the speeds it had.

I understand Vienna's viewpoint, but there are many people that need the external midi function to transmit midi between two machines, and it would be cool if Vienna had a program that did that.

Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2019 22:39
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Posts 359

if you are not using the Server version of VePro on your ProTools mix machine, then there is no point in using AU3, that is not designed for how you are working.  The way you have it setup seems kind of complicated, what are you needing to accomplish?

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Posted on Thu, Sep 12 2019 00:19
by gluppy
Joined on Tue, Oct 05 2010, Posts 18

"I currently run about 40 midi ports (16 channels each) with MidiOverLan, and use External Midi to trigger my instruments in VePro running as AAX plugins in Pro Tools. As MidiOverLan is no longer sold by MusicLab, and Copper Midi doesn't have enough instruments, (and was too slow) a replacement is needed."

Yes I am running it as server. I need a replacement for MidiOverLan. I thought AU3 was that.

Posted on Thu, Sep 12 2019 01:12
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Posts 359

no AU3 is a plugin format used primarily by LogicPro.  Similiar as VST and AAX

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