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Repetition performance VI vs. VI Pro
Last post Mon, Apr 13 2020 by jasensmith, 6 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Mar 05 2020 14:32
by Carrillet
Joined on Sat, Dec 15 2018, Posts 16

Hi,

I use VI (not Pro) with SE libraries and yesterday I bought Chamber Strings full library to complete my articulation palette.

Does it make a big difference using VI Pro instead of VI regarding the repetition performance? I saw on the video below that it has a performance repetition editor? what additional parameters can be modify there?

I'm working on a baroque piece right now. I use legato_repet. layered with long detaché for the viola and violin II eighth notes' accompaniment, and I'm not entirely happy with the results. Legato repetition alone sound too legato and a bit unclear, detaché alone sound too separete.

How can I get something inbetween that sounds more natural? After many tries, I layered both articulations legato_repet. + detaché, but I feel it could sound much better. Any suggestions? I had the same similar issue many times. When I need a staccato accompaniment, it works fine with the regular long stacc. patch, but when I need a more legato or a syncopated accompaniment, I have a lot of trouble with the accompaniment patch.

I found this video on internet, but I wonder if there are more dedicated to strings repetitions. Or VI Pro users can give me you own experience. Is the performance editor helpful?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3L9dbXYcmQThanks!

Posted on Fri, Mar 06 2020 13:58
by Carrillet
Joined on Sat, Dec 15 2018, Posts 16

Hi, After some tries with other articulations I found non_vibrato patch works nicely for the accompaniment I needed. It gives a nice clean sound.

I didn't have this articulation on SE, so definitely I have to explore in detail what Chamber Strings full library has to offer.

Posted on Sat, Mar 07 2020 10:06
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1576

Originally Posted by: Carrillet Go to Quoted Post

Does it make a big difference using VI Pro instead of VI regarding the repetition performance? I saw on the video below that it has a performance repetition editor? what additional parameters can be modify there?

I haven't explored the performance editor all that much but I like being able to turn on and off the repititions which allows me to create my own repitition sequences.  Basically you can load up the same repition patch several times with each instance having a different repition sequence.  Furthermore, you could adjust the times when the repitions trigger.  Then add some time stretching, humanize and time offset (only availlable in VI Pro) and you could conceivably, have a never repeating sequence of performance reps. Pretty cool

Originally Posted by: Carrillet Go to Quoted Post

Legato repetition alone sound too legato and a bit unclear, detaché alone sound too separete.

How can I get something inbetween that sounds more natural? After many tries, I layered both articulations legato_repet. + detaché, but I feel it could sound much better. Any suggestions?

Try experimenting with the release fader.  If the legato is sounding too legato then you might have the release fader turned up too high.  I think it defaults to 63.  Tap it down a little and see what happens  

Of course, the Legato blur feature in VI Pro can really clean that up too  (hint, hint)


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Tue, Mar 10 2020 09:37
by Carrillet
Joined on Sat, Dec 15 2018, Posts 16

Thanks jasensmith!

I will check the release fader you mencionded, and probably update to VI Pro version in the future to explore the performance repetition options.

Posted on Mon, Apr 13 2020 04:05
by StingRaymond
Joined on Mon, Apr 13 2020, Posts 1

Originally Posted by: Carrillet Go to Quoted Post

Thanks jasensmith!

I will check the release fader you mencionded, and probably update to VI Pro version in the future to explore the performance repetition options. Wegmans Connect

Thanks for the information.

Posted on Mon, Apr 13 2020 09:52
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1576

StingRaymond,

That's absolutely brillaint

I am in awe of your refined eloquence demonstrated in your beautiful post. 

I wish I had said that.

 

Wait a minute.  I did say that!

What's going on here

Originally Posted by: jasensmith Go to Quoted Post

I haven't explored the performance editor all that much but I like being able to turn on and off the repititions which allows me to create my own repitition sequences.  Basically you can load up the same repition patch several times with each instance having a different repition sequence.  Furthermore, you could adjust the times when the repitions trigger. 


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
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