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Dynamic Range in Synchron Player
Last post Fri, Dec 04 2020 by PaoloT, 6 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2020 14:40
by Richard Ford
Joined on Thu, Nov 25 2010, Posts 44

The thing hated more than most things about other libraries was that you could never go down to "niente" in the dynamic range. Cinematic Strings 2 being the only exception I can think of.

Then I bought VI Pro and Vienna libraries and the problem was solved. A dynamic Range control has is FULL RANGE!! Brilliant.

Only now in Synchron Player with the slider (default CC30) to full it is not full dynamic range - just about 95%

Does anyone know how to change this?

Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2020 16:34
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12613

Hi Richard, 

Thanks for your post. Indeed, this has been changed in the Synchron Player. 

You can of course always use Expression to fade out the last bits of signal.  For now that's the only solution I see. 

We already have a case about this, but it didn't get highest priority. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2020 17:41
by Richard Ford
Joined on Thu, Nov 25 2010, Posts 44

Wow! That's just made me realise something ..   a couple of years ago I mentioned to support that the Synchron piano never gets quiet enough - with velocity at 1. Now I see why!

Of course I never had the need to ride the velocity XF with piano, but do with strings.

I do hope this gets bumped up the priority list soon!!

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi Richard, 

Thanks for your post. Indeed, this has been changed in the Synchron Player. 

You can of course always use Expression to fade out the last bits of signal.  For now that's the only solution I see. 

We already have a case about this, but it didn't get highest priority. 

Best, 
Paul

Posted on Sat, Aug 15 2020 02:08
by michaelrasbury
Joined on Fri, Jan 04 2008, Charlottesville, Virginia, Posts 6

I have found that if I assign the expression fader to the same CC as my dynamic crossfade fader and then use the control tab to decrease the range of the expression fader using a custom curve, I get something very similar to the way the VI pro player works.  I do miss having FULL control over the dynamic range of a patch meaning I can make is so the lowest velocity doesn't play any sound.

Posted on Fri, Dec 04 2020 15:55
by matthewcreid
Joined on Wed, Dec 20 2006, Posts 5

Yes! One of the best things about the old VI player was the ability to widen the dynamic range, including to niente. It made for extremely expressive performances, all just using the mod wheel. I find cc11 is often at odds with the velocity x-fade.

Posted on Fri, Dec 04 2020 22:04
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 977

This is just me, but I’ve found that the Dynamic Range slider in VI is more a way to adjust the dynamic response than to access 'al niente'.

Usually, you don’t go to absolute silence. Gong al niente is a special behavior, a special technique. I’ve learnt to do it with Expression, and leave the Dynamic Range to the optimal setting.

Paolo

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