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SYNCHRON BÖSENDORFER 280VC - AVAILABLE NOW
Last post Fri, Feb 19 2021 by David B., 27 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Feb 02 2021 15:20
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12791

Hello everybody, 

Our newest entry in the Synchron Piano Series is available for you now!

The Synchron Bösendorfer 280VC, recorded in Stage B of our Synchron Stage Vienna (the same live room we used to record the Synchron Blüthner 1895 and Synchron Bösendorfer Upright).

More videos to come, so make sure to subscribe on our YouTube channel!

The Bösendorfer 280VC is a true all-rounder, with distinct, clear and colorful sound. A huge dynamic range and our advanced piano sampling technology combined with the experience we gained from sampling the other Synchron Pianos will make this piano come to live as soon as you start playing.

Recorded with 6 microphone positions and love for every detail of this piano, packed with 2x 6 main presets + 21 additional FX plugins.

Preset Comparison by Guy Bacos!
All audio demos!
Separate Mic Positions!

Get your license now at introductory pricing!

- Standard: € 215 (regular: €285)
- Full: € 345 (regular: €445)

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Feb 02 2021 15:39
by David B.
Joined on Tue, May 15 2018, Posts 72

This makes my heart sad because I love love love the Bösendorfer Imperial and I use it daily, but I can't afford another library (not at this time).

I wish I could trade-in some of the VSL samples that I don't use anymore, e.g., Steinway and CFX. I thought the Bösendorfer Imperial ended my search for a sampled piano and now this comes out. I actually have every VSL offering (except the Vienna Imperial) and I just can't come up with another 400 dollars at this time. Sorry. 

God Bless,

David

P.S. I would happily trade the Steinway, CFX, Blüthner, and Bösendorfer Upright to try this new Bösendorfer 280VC. It's not that the others are no good, I just don't have a use for them after getting the Bösendorfer Imperial.   

Posted on Tue, Feb 02 2021 16:45
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1125

Originally Posted by: David B. Go to Quoted Post

I wish I could trade-in some of the VSL samples that I don't use anymore

VSL allows reselling, so maybe you can find it feasible.

This one is a beautiful new piano. The new 'Yamaha' piano from Bösendorfer, with the clean, bright sound so loved nowadays. But still a Bösendorfer, with all its sweet musicality.

It is also very different from the Imperial, since this one is taken in the smaller room, and has a more intimate sound. Better for small venues (for ballads, jazz), and maybe more versatile if used with MIR. I would even compare it with the older Vienna Imperial than the newer Synchron Imperial.

Paolo

Posted on Tue, Feb 02 2021 18:12
by Snoopy10
Joined on Sun, Dec 22 2019, Stuttgart, Posts 24

Hello Paul,

  • what is the difference to the previous synchronous pianos?
  • Is the sound even better?
  • Does it have more settings, like overtones?
  • Have things been implemented here that were criticized on the other pianos?
  • What is the purchase argument for someone who already has all VSL Synchron Pianos and the Vienna imperial?

 

Georgy

Georgy
Posted on Tue, Feb 02 2021 20:27
by lupine
Joined on Sun, Feb 14 2016, Posts 55

Hello Paul,

will there be demo licenses of 280VC before the promotional price expires?
Thanks

Posted on Tue, Feb 02 2021 22:30
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12791

Hi lupine, 

I don't know if we can offer free demo licenses with those big libraries... it depends on the band-width, and we don't want to cut the purchasing customers. We'll see. 

You always have our 14-days return option!

@Georgy, I have to admit you are making me smile. I'll have to answer as bluntly as you are asking: 

  • what is the difference to the previous synchronous pianos?
    => It's simply a different piano :-)
  • Is the sound even better?
    => It is for sure different. We're trying to capture the essence of each piano. That's the beauty of it :)
  • Does it have more settings, like overtones?
    => It has the same settings, but yes, the resonance of this specific piano is quite audible. Very lively. 
  • Have things been implemented here that were criticized on the other pianos?
    => No new technical implementations on the software side.  
  • What is the purchase argument for someone who already has all VSL Synchron Pianos and the Vienna imperial?
    => More choice :-)

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Feb 03 2021 00:21
by 149280
Joined on Sat, Aug 29 2020, Posts 2

What settings are you using, I have the full library but cant get it to sound good and natural.

Posted on Wed, Feb 03 2021 18:31
by lupine
Joined on Sun, Feb 14 2016, Posts 55

I'd looove a VSL sampled Fazioli 308!!

Posted on Wed, Feb 03 2021 20:12
by Gamma1734
Joined on Sun, May 17 2020, Posts 13

If anyone missed it, I made a very extensive Preset Demonstration video - enjoy the music! :)

https://youtu.be/N_R5h-SyjWg

Posted on Thu, Feb 04 2021 11:58
by Bernhard Meijer
Joined on Tue, May 05 2020, Sweden, Posts 10
I really like the bösendorfer so far.. takes a little getting used to. I have a question.

Keys G5# and A5 have a ringing sound to them that I can’t hear in any other key. Is it supposed to be like that? Not sure I agree to that ringing :)

Also I hear that the volume is a bit lower then the concert-d. Not a biggie but would be nice to have at the same volume.
Im a beginner :)
Posted on Fri, Feb 05 2021 13:36
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1125

Hi Paul,

Will the FX Presets be available for the other pianos, as well?

Paolo

Posted on Fri, Feb 05 2021 14:47
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12791

Hi, 

@Bernhard: Those 2 pianos are recorded in different rooms, it's always tricky to get the volume right... but easy to adjust it to your liking :-)

You could use the per-note EQ on the EDIT page to get rid of any unwanted frequencies!

@Paolo: No plans for the other pianos, but you can create your own presets or copy those channels over from the existing presets and then tweak the FX :)

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Feb 05 2021 15:51
by Bernhard Meijer
Joined on Tue, May 05 2020, Sweden, Posts 10
Thank you I will try that ☺️
Im a beginner :)
Posted on Sat, Feb 06 2021 08:19
by David B.
Joined on Tue, May 15 2018, Posts 72

Thank you Paul and VSL for creating another beautiful sample library in the 280VC. I've got about 7 hours of time with it now and I'm quite certain it's going to replace the Bösendorfer Imperial as my number one piano. I had to use the edit feature to tame some of the higher frequencies, but I think that has to do more with the recording process and not the overall character/tone of the piano. 

The 280VC is a real winner. It has the full bodied presence typical of a Bösendorfer with an aggressive attack that is both clear and warm. What an inspiring library to have. I'm thankful I made the sacrifice to get it.

God Bless,

David

Posted on Sun, Feb 07 2021 16:59
by rvangaal
Joined on Tue, Dec 31 2019, Posts 4

I obtained the 280VC (standard library) yesterday and I love it! I recently got a 1Tb SSD drive and was able to now move the files from an old harddisk to the SSD and that worked miracles for the loading speed! I should have done that earlier (I also had some crackling when using the HD).

Love the round warm tone of the 280VC, it's like getting a new piano. :-) (playing on Yamaha P515)

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Posted on Mon, Feb 08 2021 11:39
by daviddln
Joined on Tue, Feb 25 2014, Posts 215

Hello

As there are now three pianos recorded in Stage B, will there be a Synchron Stage B Roompack for MIR Pro to blend the pianos with libraries from the VI Series?

Best, David

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Posted on Mon, Feb 08 2021 11:54
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12791

Hi David, 

That's a good question. 

We have experimented a bit and find the "NFR HALL" of The Sage Gateshead a pretty good fit! Will post a video about that soon!

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Feb 09 2021 03:08
by David B.
Joined on Tue, May 15 2018, Posts 72

Here is my review of this beautiful sampled piano. You guys did an amazing job and I feel its a real privilege to own this. It has dethroned the Bösendorfer Imperial and has become my primary piano. However, I'm not getting rid of my Imperial. It's what made me fall in love with the Bösendorfer sound. 

VSL Bösendorfer 280VC Review

God Bless,

David

Posted on Tue, Feb 09 2021 10:12
by KevinMe
Joined on Sun, May 10 2020, Posts 17

Nice review, thanks David. Very informative.

Unrelated to the review, has anyone else noticed that the tube mic position is a lot more demanding CPU wise than any of the other mic positions? then it can be quite significant, noticeable playing just a single note but it can really add up when playing using the pedal. At least that is the situation for me.

Posted on Tue, Feb 09 2021 21:30
by migebo
Joined on Sun, Nov 13 2011, Posts 4

Got my version yesterday evening...night...far too less sleep last night...anyway

There is a question with the CPU - Meter. The CPU will be max to 12% or 13 %, but the red Peak starts (do nothing on the fresh started computer) with 42 %. Just hit the pedal will rise up to 87% without playing a note. While playing it is about 100% fortunately without any drops...

Not a big deal,  the sound is perfect, but it looks a bit strange to me...others?

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