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Posted on Wed, Feb 15 2023 22:29
by Olivier W.
Joined on Sun, Jul 25 2021, France, Posts 15

Originally Posted by: Keagan Daz Go to Quoted Post

I finally found the Best Velocity for my Steinway Hamburg that I love!!

I have Deeply researching it for a month and here is my method.

 

*PROBLEM

VSL Steinway on Default Velocity Curve, I kinda hate how it sound so hard.even thouogh I play pianissimo. Unlikely CFX, I kinda love CFX response feel.

 

*SOLUTION

1.I need to find out how many Layers they really have by using Fabfilter L-2

and I got 60 Layers (Silent key included)

2.Make it True Linear by X = Layer*100/60, Y = 100-(100/128*midi signal) 

3.I load the Velocity Preset on CFX and play. WOW it more response But Steinway's response feel still so hard.

4.I use MIDISHAPESHIFTER to curve the True Linear by reference from CFX.

5.I change The X to make it curve like SOLUTION 4.

 

at first try, I don't even trust that I made it so I leave from it for a moment to rest a bit,eat some snacks and play it again.the resource still unbelievable!!.

 

Keagan D. Milos

Hello,

I've tried it and Bravo :) good work i will use it.

Olivier W.
Posted on Sat, Feb 25 2023 16:29
by Olivier W.
Joined on Sun, Jul 25 2021, France, Posts 15

Hi,

Here Calculation .xls to fix Steinway D-274 fix, to use the most important sampled layers (50/60).

The last layers taken by the VSL robot 50 to 60, are unreal for me. (no pianist finger behaviour)

Attached :

.xls

.velmap

File Attachment(s):
VSL-STEINWAY-Correction-velocity-formula.xls (23kb) downloaded 8 time(s).
D-274-Velocity-all-60-layers-FIX.velmap.zip (2kb) downloaded 11 time(s).

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Olivier W.
Posted on Sat, Feb 25 2023 21:39
by Olivier W.
Joined on Sun, Jul 25 2021, France, Posts 15

Hi,

Here Calculation .xls to fix Steinway D-274 fix, to use the most important sampled layers (50/60).

The last layers taken by the VSL robot 50 to 60, are unreal for me. (no pianist finger behaviour)

Attached good files (wrong files in previous post):

.xls

.velmap

File Attachment(s):
VSL-STEINWAY-Correction-velocity-formula.xls (20kb) downloaded 5 time(s).
D-274-Velocity-all-60-layers-FIX.velmap.zip (2kb) downloaded 8 time(s).

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Olivier W.
Posted on Mon, Feb 27 2023 01:18
by Olivier W.
Joined on Sun, Jul 25 2021, France, Posts 15

Here,

The Final version of D-274. corrected layer Velocity and the good layers number :

attached :

File Attachment(s):
Final-VSL-STEINWAY-Correction-velocity-formula.xls (19kb) downloaded 14 time(s).
D-274-Velocity-59-layers-FIX.velmap.zip (2kb) downloaded 15 time(s).

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Olivier W.
Posted on Mon, Mar 06 2023 17:10
by Olivier W.
Joined on Sun, Jul 25 2021, France, Posts 15

Hi,

Attached the latest 60 layers and dynamic Fix, for D-274 based on Real Steinway D.

All 60 layers are used in new velocity curve.

Attached :

(the .xls , the . velmap and the demo preset)

File Attachment(s):
Optimised-FULL-Steinway-D-274-Layers-fix.zip (15kb) downloaded 27 time(s).

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Olivier W.
Posted on Tue, Apr 25 2023 18:40
by Dickiefunk
Joined on Wed, Apr 19 2023, Posts 2

Hi,

I'm new to this forum and the VSL pianos. Thankyou for all the presets everyone has shared on here 

I have downloaded all the various CFX presets but don't know where the user presets folder is on my Windows 11 PC? Could someone help me find this please?

Thanks

Posted on Tue, Apr 25 2023 22:12
by Keepitsimple
Joined on Tue, May 01 2018, Posts 11

Originally Posted by: Dickiefunk Go to Quoted Post

Hi,

I'm new to this forum and the VSL pianos. Thankyou for all the presets everyone has shared on here 

I have downloaded all the various CFX presets but don't know where the user presets folder is on my Windows 11 PC? Could someone help me find this please?

Thanks

Documents\VSL\Vienna Synchron Pianos\Presets

Posted on Thu, Apr 27 2023 07:50
by Olivier W.
Joined on Sun, Jul 25 2021, France, Posts 15

Hi,

New Steinway 60 layers preset for new VSL Piano Full player V1.3.368 update (27 april 2023) (fix releases samples)

(Attached files)

File Attachment(s):
Steinway-D274-full-60-layers-fix-vel.velmap.zip (1kb) downloaded 8 time(s).
V1.3.368-FULL-VSL-Synchron-Steinway-D274-optimised.vsynpreset.zip (9kb) downloaded 14 time(s).

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Olivier W.
Posted on Thu, Apr 27 2023 10:00
by Rafa Ferreira
Joined on Sun, Aug 14 2022, Spain, Posts 15

Hi, Olivier!

Thank you for sharing your presets. Yesterday, I tested your previous patch and I found it very playable, so congrats for your excellent work. However, I find it extremely dry so I personally add a couple of surround mics to feel it more wet and nice; I will use it often. Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by: Olivier W. Go to Quoted Post

Hi,

New Steinway 60 layers preset for new VSL Piano Full player V1.3.368 update (27 april 2023) (fix releases samples)

(Attached files)


Input: Yamaha U3 SH2 (silent piano with MIDI output)
Libraries: Synchron Pianos Yamaha CFX Full, D274 full.
PC Specs: RME HDSPe AIO, Asus Z590E, Intel i9 11900KF @5 GHz, 64GB RAM DDR4 @3600 MHz
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