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SUGGESTION: Packed (not empty) halls
Last post Tue, Jun 06 2023 by dagmarpiano, 5 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Jun 06 2023 11:36
by dagmarpiano
Joined on Thu, Feb 14 2008, Merseyside, UK, Posts 162

PRODUCT SUGGESTION: NON-EMPTY HALL SETTING

One weird issue with MIR is that all these halls had impulses captured while they were empty.  No one hears halls that way, they hear them with people in, which gives a less reverberant, warmer sound thanks to all those meat-based acoustic absorbers filling the bottom of the 3D space.

It would be nice if there was a way to use some kind of binaural method to accurately offer the sound of these places with people in them. Or even a slider for how full.

I know you can reduce the reverb mix amount but there's more to human sound-absorbers than reverb amounts I think...! 

18-core iMac Pro | Vienna MIR | 16" M1 MacBook Pro

Trailer music publisher: https://gothic-storm.com
Posted on Tue, Jun 06 2023 12:01
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8333

This request pops up every now and then. :-) But most world-class concert halls sound remarkably similar with or without an audience, partly because of their sheer size, partly because of the many precautions taken in these halls against acoustic "emptiness", e.g. by upholstering the backs of unused seats, etc.

I've also read comments from high profile conductors who prefer the acoustics of empty halls for their recordings, but that's another story altogether.

With scoring stages, the effect is also not too noticeable - at least not in the case of Sychron Stage Vienna.. :-)

In the end, the effect is not too difficult to imitate by reducing the length of the reverb a little and using a gentle high-shelving EQ to dampen the top end of the reverb.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jun 06 2023 12:03
by dagmarpiano
Joined on Thu, Feb 14 2008, Merseyside, UK, Posts 162

fair enough!

18-core iMac Pro | Vienna MIR | 16" M1 MacBook Pro

Trailer music publisher: https://gothic-storm.com
Posted on Tue, Jun 06 2023 13:47
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8333

We are open to any kind of idea, as long as you do not suggest - as has already been done! - to record the impulse responses _with_ an audience in the hall. (Hey, easy task! Just get 1,000 people to sit completely silent for 24 or 48 hours while listening to hundreds of blaring sine-sweeps, again and again.  )

:-D

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jun 06 2023 14:06
by dagmarpiano
Joined on Thu, Feb 14 2008, Merseyside, UK, Posts 162

just a thought - the audience don't have to be alive :) 

18-core iMac Pro | Vienna MIR | 16" M1 MacBook Pro

Trailer music publisher: https://gothic-storm.com
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