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How do I combine a legato line with a diminuendo?
Last post Tue, Feb 20 2007 by Beat Kaufmann, 8 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Feb 16 2007 15:00
by Felix Bartelt
Joined on Fri, Oct 22 2004, Berlin, Posts 372
After such a long time this might sound like a stupid question, but I still couldn´t find out, how to do that in a nice sounding and easy way.

Example: I want the BKL_perf-leg_p to end with a diminuendo (e.g. BKL_dim2_2s)

How do you guys do that?

Is there something like an "end ghost note"?
Posted on Fri, Feb 16 2007 18:53
by synthetic
Joined on Mon, Mar 14 2005, Posts 276
You can play the last legato note softly, let off quickly and double it with a dim sample. Or just play the legato sample and lower the volume with controller 11.
Posted on Fri, Feb 16 2007 18:54
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1649
synthetic wrote:
You can play the last legato note softly, let off quickly and double it with a dim sample. Or just play the legato sample and lower the volume with controller 11.



Exactly what I do. No phasing issues using this method.

Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Sat, Feb 17 2007 14:25
by Felix Bartelt
Joined on Fri, Oct 22 2004, Berlin, Posts 372
If I play the legoto note softly, isn´t the "slurr"-part too soft? As I understand this, the conjunktion of loud notes is louder than one of two soft notes?

How do you do that, if you need the last dim-note to be e.g. 4 seconds, but you only have instruments of 3 or 6 seconds?

How is that be done in generell? (not only concernig perf-leg)
Posted on Mon, Feb 19 2007 09:03
by david ender
Joined on Fri, Feb 20 2004, Vienna/Austria, Posts 460
Hi Felix,

If you want the last dim note to be 4 seconds, you can take a 6 sec. articulation and add a volume fade to trim the diminuendo to the length you want.

Regards,
David
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Posted on Mon, Feb 19 2007 17:38
by Felix Bartelt
Joined on Fri, Oct 22 2004, Berlin, Posts 372
Rob Elliott wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Or just play the legato sample and lower the volume with controller 11.



Rob


Which "volume" is controlled by controller 11? I know about midi-volume, track-volume and the global volume of an exs-instrument or an gigastudio-instrument, but I can´t figure out, which of these volumes controller 11 is assigned to, since I see no movement in none of these volume knobs, when I draw a change of control 11, even though I hear the change.
Posted on Mon, Feb 19 2007 21:13
by david ender
Joined on Fri, Feb 20 2004, Vienna/Austria, Posts 460
Controller 11 is "Expression" - a rather elusive term for another volume controller within the normal MIDI volume (which, by the way, is the parameter controlled by the volume slider on a MIDI track).

Apart from being able to make finer adjustments by combining MIDI volume and expression, you can also use it to control the volume within a track while leaving the "normal" volume controller untouched. Thus, you can set an overall volume for the track and take CC11 for fine-tuning.

Cheers,
David
Posted on Tue, Feb 20 2007 00:09
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1713
Felix Bartelt wrote:
...Example: I want the BKL_perf-leg_p to end with a diminuendo (e.g. BKL_dim2_2s)
How do you guys do that?
Is there something like an "end ghost note"?

Hi Felix
I did a christmas-song last year. With the final chord I had a similar problem as you. I should have a legoto (portamento) between pfp and a dim sample.
Afterwards I showed this very special solution on my website - for others.
I think "your case" is similar one.
http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/tipspcmusic/vitipstricks/index.php#033ff4988e003c602

Good luck

Beat
www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
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