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Do animals make music?
Last post Mon, Apr 16 2007 by Martin Bayless, 9 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Mar 07 2007 14:23
by JimineySnicket
Joined on Wed, Jul 06 2005, Posts 41
Unrelated to the VSL but I reckon this is the place to bring it up (my last post had a healthy response).

Is anybody aware of any form of creature other than humans who actively make music for pleasure. And I dont mean (atleast I dont think I mean) birdsong which we may interpret as being 'musical' but is actually a form of communication.

I'm just intrigued to find out if there is and if so what does it sound like? Do they have problems with keyswitches and RAM I wonder?

Cheers
Jim
Posted on Wed, Mar 07 2007 15:48
by MarkOfTheStoat
Joined on Sat, Aug 20 2005, Posts 56
JimineySnicket wrote:
And I dont mean (atleast I dont think I mean) birdsong which we may interpret as being 'musical' but is actually a form of communication.


Why wouldn't the birds interpret their song as musical too? And, ' .....actually a form of communication' .... why should that disqualify it as being music - surely music is ALL ABOUT communication?

I understand what you mean though (I'm not really arguing [Big Smile] )- how much of animal behaviour is just 'mundane' .. or how much do we actually romantacize ('Disney- fy') animal behaviour and thus make it more abstract/artistic than it really is?

I think animals DO make music for pleasure - but they just don't really THINK about doing it that's all!

And like us it usually has another more practical side to it - we do it to make a living and so do they! (defining territory, announcing location to friends/potential mates over long distances, maintaining the cohesion of flock, pod, herd, pack etc, anouncing all clear/danger).

Here's a question: how many HUMANS make music PURELY for pleasure!

...........It's good to close all your projects and switch the mac off every once in a while! [Big Smile]
Posted on Wed, Mar 07 2007 16:19
by Angelo Clematide
Joined on Thu, Sep 08 2005, Posts 1139
The cat plays piano, she does that to get my attention, or more likely for cat food. She is a composer with a large oeuvre, a determinist as well an aleatoric performer well known in the cat & mouse community.

On the tree nearest to my bureau window, often a blackbird is singing something shortly before sunset, I accompany him, he adjust in no time to my key, not matter how complex the chordscale is. I tried to teach him singing harmonies, but wasn't successful till now

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Posted on Wed, Mar 07 2007 17:14
by jamriding
Joined on Thu, Mar 31 2005, U.K., Posts 259
My dad's cat played the piano as well: he was quite a virtuoso Stick out tongue

You can find out all about him on my Dad's website which I've created in his memory.

Look under Ted's pets for details... There's even a picture of Arthur (the moggy) sat on the piano, ready to give us a burst of Grieg's piano concerto... Never has a finer performance been heard [Indifferent]

http://www.tedamriding.co.uk/
Posted on Wed, Mar 21 2007 21:36
by Patrick Wilson
Joined on Mon, Feb 16 2004, UK, Posts 109
How about whales? They have a huge song catalogue apparently!
Posted on Wed, Mar 21 2007 22:05
by jamriding
Joined on Thu, Mar 31 2005, U.K., Posts 259
Patrick Wilson wrote:
How about whales? They have a huge song catalogue apparently!


And don't forget Alan Hohvaness' "And I saw great whales" from the 1960's (???)

Sorry but I don't know anything more about him.
Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 09:17
by Ron 14
Joined on Wed, Jul 07 2004, Posts 41
Chimpansees are great percussionists.And they're really enjoying it. Big Smile
Posted on Thu, Apr 05 2007 07:22
by lgrohn
Joined on Sat, Feb 05 2005, Nauvo, Finland, Posts 198
Patrick Wilson wrote:
How about whales? They have a huge song catalogue apparently!


As far as I know whale sounds have been transposed to pitches pleasing humans. So ...
metacomposer Lauri Gröhn
http://www.synestesia.fi
Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 15:51
by Martin Bayless
Joined on Sat, Oct 25 2003, New York, USA, Posts 266
ok, this is weird. i worked with a director who just got back from guatamala filming a documentary on the guy that "founded" the elephant orchestra. what struck me as scary was the level to which these animals are communicating with each other.

look/listen and have fun with this one:

http://www.mulatta.org/thaieleorchpage.html
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