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Posted on Tue, Jul 03 2007 18:38
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622
First one, a very impressive piece by Rob Elliott featuring the Trumpet section.
"Journey to Greatness"
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=13&DemoId=5066


Guy Bacos wrote this wonderful piece for cornet and orchestra
"Blues and Cadenza"
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=13&DemoId=5067

and a 2nd one, featuring the trumpet section
"Superhero Theme"
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=13&DemoId=5068


Beat Kaufmann at the opera conducting Guiseppe Verdis
"Aida - Triumph March"
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=13&DemoId=5070

and another classy arrangement by Beat, featuring the alto trombone
Händel's "The Foundling Hospital Anthem XVI"
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=13&DemoId=5069

thanks a lot!
Posted on Tue, Jul 03 2007 20:27
by DKW
Joined on Tue, Apr 04 2006, Posts 69
To Rob Elliott ,

There's only one word to sum up the "Journey To Greatness" piece, and your programming of it: PERFECT!!!
DKW
Posted on Tue, Jul 03 2007 21:38
by jamieh
Joined on Fri, Sep 30 2005, Posts 60
Amazing and truly remarkable stuff. Wow! [Indifferent]
J
Posted on Tue, Jul 03 2007 21:52
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
DKW wrote:
To Rob Elliott ,

There's only one word to sum up the "Journey To Greatness" piece, and your programming of it: PERFECT!!!



Wow - that's a very nice thing to say Big Smile . This was a nice departure from a christmas album I am currently in the middle of (not sure if I will ever like Christmas music again [Wink] )

Seriously - I really love this special brass - I knew the trpts-6 would be incredible for these types of soaring lines. What I didn't expect to fall in love with was the cornet!!! So expressive and playable - it is NOW in my template.

Thanks again for your nice comments.


Rob



edit: As usual - so good Guy and Beat. Guy, love the harmonic language on the Blues piece- of course the Cornet shines on this one. On the Superhero, how are you doing the Brass rep's - with the rep patches? Very convincing.

Beat - the trombone on Handels sound very nice (honesty haven't even gotten to that instrument yet.) Your strings programming is spot on. Surpriseops:

Wish you were in SLC to watch you 'program' something like this. The variety of articulations is seemless.
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Tue, Jul 03 2007 22:28
by rino amato
Joined on Wed, Aug 13 2003, Rome-Europe, Posts 494
Guiseppe??!!??? [[Big Smile]] [[Big Smile]] [[Big Smile]]

P.S.: ...I agree with DKW... my favorite- this time - (music & programming) is your journey, Rob... Bravo!
Posted on Tue, Jul 03 2007 22:40
by JBacal
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Posts 1209
Rob- You have a real knack for the noble. Excellent piece.

Guy-- I love that vintage arrangment sound you get in "Blues and Cadenza" Reminds me of one of those great ballad albums from people like Sinatra in the 50's. Very lovely composition.

Beat-- As Rob mentioned the baroque string work on the Handel is terrific.

Keep sharing!

Best,
Jay
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 05:12
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1995
Rob,

What trumpets are they? à 3? à 6?
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 05:45
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
Guy wrote:
Rob,

What trumpets are they? à 3? à 6?



They are the a6's and the cornet mixed on top. Big Smile


Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 07:32
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7883
Very impressive, Rob. Especially the "flying" staccatos in the middle-part are enthralling. Congratulations!
/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 13:42
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1995
Rob Elliott wrote:
Guy wrote:
Rob,

What trumpets are they? à 3? à 6?



They are the a6's and the cornet mixed on top. Big Smile


Rob


It is? Damn you! Some of us have attempted this but you're demo is the first to truly successfully showcase these trumpets. I could see in what context they work good, and a great piece of music as well. I'll take my British accent and say: "Well done!"

To answer your question it was most often upbeat rep, but sometimes perf rep.

Jay and Rob,

Thanks, I enjoy writing in that style and as Jay pointed out I did want to make it more retro, I even came close to adding brushes but preferred not to.
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 13:45
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
Dietz wrote:
Very impressive, Rob. Especially the "flying" staccatos in the middle-part are enthralling. Congratulations!




Thanks a lot Dietz - means a lot to me coming from someone with your 'ears' [Wink]


Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 13:55
by Christian Marcussen
Joined on Mon, Nov 10 2003, Posts 1508
Rob Elliott wrote:
Dietz wrote:
Very impressive, Rob. Especially the "flying" staccatos in the middle-part are enthralling. Congratulations!




Thanks a lot Dietz - means a lot to me coming from someone with your 'ears' [Wink]


Rob


And 'organ'! [Indifferent]

Great stuff Rob. Brilliant showcasing of the trumpets!
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 14:35
by Craig Sharmat
Joined on Wed, Oct 16 2002, Woodland Hills, Posts 416
Great demo. This should do a wonderful job of selling the brass collection.
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 14:58
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
Thanks Guy. I think you are right - heroic/ noble style of music is well suited to the trpts.

Christian and Craig - thanks also for you nice comments.

Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 18:21
by DaveTubaKing
Joined on Fri, Feb 27 2004, London, Posts 770
Wonderful demos Big Smile

However I'm worried Sad why is there no demo of the Euphonium?

Whilst I am over the moon with most of the Euphonium gig I was taken aback that there is no vibrato. Of all the brass instruments the greatest singer is the Euphonium the cello of the brass world.

I haven't started working with my VSL Euphonium yet and I'm sure we'll make beautiful music together soon. But no vibrato is very very disappointing.

What are others experiences of the Euphonium gig so far and what about some demos - what about The Swan with the bosendorfer.
David Carter https://sorabjiorchestralmusic.wordpress.com/
https://www.youtube.com/...UCoEithAEjsd4IBViwsfQFwQ

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Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 18:27
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1995
DaveTubaKing wrote:
Wonderful demos [Big Smile]

why is there no demo of the Euphonium?


What's an Euphonium?

kidding.... [Big Smile]

I thought there was at least one demo of it.
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 21:47
by DaveTubaKing
Joined on Fri, Feb 27 2004, London, Posts 770
Guy, what patch did you use for the cornet triple tongueing?

Nice composition by the way. Perhaps you could put the solo part down an octave and play it on the Euphonium - Oh! excpet there's no vibrato patch Crying
David Carter https://sorabjiorchestralmusic.wordpress.com/
https://www.youtube.com/...UCoEithAEjsd4IBViwsfQFwQ

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Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 22:04
by Fiery Angel
Joined on Mon, Nov 07 2005, Milton ON, Posts 311
I'm a brass player, trombone specifically, so I'm very picky about brass. These demos blew me away! Rob, I commented about your piece on V.I. Index but I have to underline how friggin' amazing your piece is. Love your harmonic choices and more importantly how you voiced the brass chords.

I was looking at getting the full sax library from VSL (I'm a lowly Vienna SE guy thus far) but these demos have changed my future spending choice. Awesome library Herb, Dietz, and Christian!
I compose therefore I am.
Posted on Wed, Jul 04 2007 23:28
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1995
DaveTubaKing wrote:
Guy, what patch did you use for the cornet triple tongueing?

Nice composition by the way. Perhaps you could put the solo part down an octave and play it on the Euphonium - Oh! excpet there's no vibrato patch Crying


Don't cry.

For the triple tongue I think I used the upbeat 3 and I omitted the down beat by shortening the note and used a stacc note for the melody down beats on a different track.. I synced this perfectly so it would sound like 1 player trying to sound like 2 players rather than sounding like 2 players, if that makes any sense....In other words, no cheating. As soon as it started slowing down I switched to perf rep and played it in real time. I remember in high school a guest trumpetist came over and played a passage like that and it had an imprint on me, sounded like 2 trumpets!
Posted on Thu, Jul 05 2007 00:32
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5701
Excellent demos. Guy continues to demonstrate a huge range of composing chops. Beat Kaufman's was excellent and I really liked the theme on the Rob Elliot piece.

By the way, there was a mention of the euphonium. That is a tremendous set of samples, and I didn't even think of no vibrato being a problem, since the tone quality and detail is beautiful. That guy is an awesome player! The legato is wonderful, but also, the basic sustain euphonium is all perfectly looped, 4 velocity and goes way down in the range. Was that stretched? - if it was it still sounded perfect - but there may be some pedal tones in there. Anyway it is an awesome sound for that beautiful conical-bore, mellow upper-mid-range tuba timbre.
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