Strings in "divisi"

[Titi]

Hello,

If you right the string parts in divisi like it is often written in 20th century music, there is a big problem.
In reallity, If you write for the first violons of a chamber orchestra 2 parts, you will have 3 violons playing the first part and 3 other violons playing the second part, so that you still hear 6 violons.
With VSL chamber strings, if you do so, you will hear 6 violons playing the first part and 6 violons playing the second part of the divisi, so that you will hear 12 violons !
It's a big problem when writing with some divisi.
I'm quite disapointed [:(]

Someone has the solution ?

I should be able to write without any computer, and hear everything in my head.

David.

[DG]

Layer the Chamber Strings patch with a Solo Strings patch and it will sound like a smaller section.

DG

[ColinThomson]

Why?

[Titi]

I already use solo strings ! ( violins, alto and cello )
It is often used in chamber strings orchestra. So I can't take a solo string as the solution for the divisi [:(]

I hope there will be the solution in the next VSL.

David.

[mathis]

You can fake divisi a bit by lowering the volume and thinning the sound out with EQ.

[Titi]

Yes, I think I'm going to low the volume.
Thank you.
At this price, the soft should understand the divisi when you record.
I hope it will be the next step for the VSL because it's so important.

[:)]

David.

[William]

Their are plenty of opportunities for creating perfect divisi with the combination of numbers found in Appassionata, Orchestral, Chamber and solos.

I think this guy is a shill for DVZ. [[;)]]

[mathis]

He wants to divide the chamber strings, as he wrote in his first post.

[Titi]

I have asked the question to Beat Kaufman ( I imagine everybody knows his website ).
He agrees with the fact that we have to find alternative solutions.
The volume or whatever.
The VSL isn't programed to write divisi for strings.
That's all. To bad for us.

[DG]

@Titi said:

I already use solo strings ! ( violins, alto and cello )
It is often used in chamber strings orchestra. So I can't take a solo string as the solution for the divisi [:(]

I hope there will be the solution in the next VSL.

David.

No you don't understand. Play both the Solo and Chamber patches together, and it will sound as if you have less than the original Chamber size orchestra playing. If you honestly think that VSL is likely to record sections half that of the Chamber Collection, I think that you will have a long wait. [:)]

Please try my solution, as it works very well.

DG

[Titi]

Well, you seem to have already experimented this solution ( chamber violins in divisi with solo violin ).
OK, so I'll try your solution.

[William]

The VSL string ensembles consist of nearly doubled sizes. Appassionata the largest, Orchestral about half the size of that, Chamber half the size of that, and then solos. So that is what I meant by plenty of opportunity to create divisi lines. If you have a line played by Appassionata violins for example, and it divides into 2, you can go to orchestral without distorting the numbers. If you need divisi a 4, you can use chamber. And the solos can be used to add further numbers.

[Titi]

Thank you William.
I had already understand your solution. It's not so bad but after all, but :
- you need all VSL strings
- It's OK if you write music for a philarmonic
- It's not the solution if you write for a REAL chamber strings orchestra, as to say for example 6/6/4/4/2 musiciens.

David.

[Nathan Allen Pinard]

It would be very time consuming to be able to have divisi flexibility as you describe. They would have to have way more samples recorded, and also the patches would be very big and take up a lot of RAM.

Granted, this is supposed to be a virtual orchestra, but not everything is perfect.

I pretty much ignore the divisi thing. If I want to write divisi in appassionata, I simply do. But that's because I happen to like the big sound.