tonylombardi wrote:

I'm perfectly aware of the high range of the bassoon at the beginning of the Rite of Spring. It's mentioned with every mention of the work actually, in connection with the "riot" at the premiere.
Anyway you have the patch and I'm pretty sure good ears as well. I'm just drawing from my own experience in school band and recordings I listen to.

Anthony

Anthony,
Key noise “clicks” is a common thing to all woodwinds. Flute, clarinet, Oboe, Bassoon, saxophone do all have this more or less, depending on the brand and the condition of the instrument. Old instruments normally have more key noise as new ones. In live performance this is almost never a problem, because of distance player -listener and ambient noise. In recordings this is different and can be a serious problem. I do own many recordings of solo - or with piano - woodwind recordings on some the clicks are disturbing me on other I do not hear any.

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Are the clicks less noticable in the normal range when you play it?
If they are, I'd be a little surprised, but then again I'm certainly no expert on bassoon.

Certain frequencies do cover up the clicks. I think Dietz could explain this thing better than I. Just a small example: I have a laptop for internet in my studio which does noise, if the air condition is on I do not hear the laptop anymore, because of air flow, which is more pleasant and much lower in level as the laptop. I think this is also how Dither in audio does work.

Iwan

I know about masking, but don't you need a similar frequency range as the noise in order to mask it? That's why I mentioned that metallic clicks are very high frequency, way higher than the highest note a bassoon can play.
Anyway I'm all talked out on this topic!

Absolutely. I recommend the (free) guide in pdf format at Izotope site on the subject of dithering. Although it comments from time to time about their mastering product (Ozone) there is an amazing amount of interesting info on the subject of dithering.
I was a real ignorant on anything related to this stuff and now I´m an ignorant who understands dithering

just lower the volume, put it "back" in reverb with less dry signal and some high frequency filtering, and add some natuaral "hall noise", the clicking should be minimal or not noticable then.