> i tried copy/pasting it from one environment layer to the next only to find my midi wasn't getting through.

You move objects between layers by selecting them, holding option and changing the layer from the flip menu. All cablings stay intact.

You can't copy/paste a Physical Input object cause there's always only one of it. Might lead to unpredictable results, as you observed.

Another quite basic approach is to drag objects between two open Environment windows. But you probaly knew all that and i'm boring you.

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Nope... Mine have been fast and less since the last series of tests. From your other posts it seems like we have many settings in common, buffer size etc. btw- I've tried the 32bit float on and off, and it doesn't seem to matter as far as memory goes. It says it matters, but I didn't notice it.

A few quick questions:
--Are your Exs settings for SR conversion set to best or normal? Mine is best. I don't know if that would matter...
--Could this be related to Sample Merge? I merged with 2g settings and share mode.
--Maybe I'm just choosing more layered samples. I tend to prefer keyswitches and mod wheel layers rather than separate midi channels for each articulation.

On a side note... I just noticed something last night. I didn't realize the "basic" instruments were spread across whole steps and limited to two layers. I actually pulled out the "gasp" manual last night to check some things and that jumped out at me. Guess it didn't click before.

Even with the limited tests I did last night, I am convinced that this is going to work, and that finally I will be able to have the template that I need loaded. I would like to get some input on why you set up so many midi channels. For me, it seems easier to have a part on one channel. I record a rough part line with a generic articulation then go back and add keyswitches to add expression and realism. What is your workflow like using different channels for each articulation. Do you record a part and then copy the pertinent notes to whatever track has the articulation you want? This may be OT, but here’s why I ask. From the way I’ve recorded in the past, it seems like it may be worth it to build a few huge keyswitching instruments for each part or section, but if I’m missing something about the separate midi channels I don’t want to go to all that trouble.

Thanks for all your input and work on this! You da' man ... (though I have serious plans to conquer the universe with my 2 g5's )

Aubrey
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Ok. I am at 48k, though in the past that didn't seem to make a difference. Also, I only have 7g of ram in this machine. Never thought I would say ONLY 7gigs This song turns out to only have 21 instruments...(I couldn't count last night)

Top reports:
PhysMem: 423M wired, 115M active, 4.06G inactive, 4.59G used, 2.41G free
VM: 6.99G + 72.7M 32047(0) pageins, 85(0) pageouts

362 Logic Plat 19.0% 3:49:48 7 223 17580 2.93G 40.9M 2.96G 3.17G

Instruments Loaded:

VI-14_basic_all-MRG.exs
VI-14_pz_2LAY_basic-MRG.exs
VI-14_perf-leg_p+porta_f-MRG.exs
VI-14_perf-leg_p+f-MRG.exs
VI_basic_all-MRG.exs
VI_dyn2_all-MRG.exs
VI_perf-leg_p+f-porta-MRG.exs
VI_perf-leg-MRG.exs
VA-10_basic_all-MRG.exs
VA-10_basic_all_2LAY-MRG.exs
VA-10_mV_perf-leg_p+porta-f-MRG.exs
VA-10_mV_perf-leg_p+f-MRG.exs
VC-8_basic_all-MRG.exs
VC-8_basic_all_2Lay-MRG.exs
VC-8_mV_perf-leg_p+porta-f-MRG.exs
VC-8_mV_perf-leg_p+f-MRG.exs
VC_basic_all-MRG.exs
VC_mV_dyn2_all.exs
VC_perf-leg_p+porta-f-MRG.exs
VC_perf-leg_p+f-MRG.exs
HA_normal+RS-mute-sh+lo-MRG.exs

Thanks,
Aubrey

You will recover about 3% CPU by QUITTING the finder. Not sure how I did it, but for the longest time I have that option. Simply look up QUIT FINDER PANTHER on Google. There is some modifcation or app that you run that permanently enables the option.

Every 1% counts!



Evan Evans

Well Nick, all you do if you want the finder on a whim is click on it in the dock. Freeing up 3% CPU couldn't be any easier or more menu/grapgically driven in nature.

Evan Evans

ok

i had 12 logics open at once - 1 master, 11 slaves - with a total of 552 instruments loaded which required 25+ GB worth of VM space.

the bad news? well it took over a half hour to load and just having that many logics opened - not playing, just opened - had my processors pegged at 100%. for the record, they were also pegged with 12 songs opened with no instruments loaded.

so 12 songs is too much to expect. i think 4 at once is more likely (though extreme).

from what i've seen, the only setting in Audio Driver prefs that really affects performance is the Process Buffer Range. having it set to large improves CPU performance for slave logics (though not by a lot). nothing in the EXS prefs seems to have an affect.

with one slave logic, i found setting the I/O buffer to 64 was fine. not sure about multiple logics. but each logic app can have its own buffer setting.

anyway, it looks to me like 1 or 2 additional logic apps with 64 instruments in each is definitely doable on a G5 with 8 GB RAM.

not going to be loadind the whole library anytime soon, but this is definitely an improvement.

Well that's about what I expected. Around 300 Instruments. I am about to start a film and will try to see if on a G4 Dual 1.41Ghz, which is what I have, will benefit by running a SECOND logic, but I doubt it. Especially with how I like to load ALL instruments, I'm sure I'll already be pushing my limits.



Evan Evans

Aubrey

VSIZE on logic boot = 511 MB
after addition of 1 stereo EXS = 516 MB
after opening VI-14_perf-leg_p+porta_f = 710 MB

this was the unmerged, original VSL file.

It would be great if you could import and/or replace Environment layers with loaded EXSs, wouldn't it...

Hi all, Hi Evan,
Maybe it's time to do a "resume" of this discovery !!
What to do precisly, how to sync those LogicAudio, how to retrieve all those EXS24 outputs etc...

enormous thx you BG ( big Gourou)