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    Ahem [:O]ops: appologies if that was asked before.... I am wondering if there is a chance that we will see a sampled Grand from the VSL team any time soon.... I mean come on....

    The Instrument of instruments [*-)]: [[;)]]
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    hi, don´twait, just buy the Ivory Grands...

    really really good... I normaly use a Steinway A in my studio, but now I think I will use more the Ivory...smile... it´s not only a simulation, it´s really really good... (and everytime well tempered [;)])
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    Hi Ackerdemiker....

    Interesting opinion! I was wondering about that newbiw as well.... How about the system you are running it on? I mean I have a fairly old 2.4 Ghz with 1 Gig Ram, but if that would be suitable enough for playing classics, this would be interesting.

    I doubt though that I would let the dust settle on a Steinway A in favourite of a plugin, I can not imagine somehow that Scriabins vers la flame would work.... then again I might be totally wrong....

    Having said that.... if you drop your Steinway.... I catch it.... [[;)]]
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    I don’t expect from VSL such a library.

    For two reasons : they already exist. ( http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12028&highlight=Piano+list )

    And there is no legato work to achieve with a piano...



    A choir.

    We need a choir. In my opinion.

    But this is probably a nightmare to do such a work... I wouldn’t be the developer who take the decision to sample a legato choir...

    ...insomnia, divorce, psychiatric hospital, bankrupt, and then prison.
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    Ivory is very good, but has only 8 different velocities.
    For now into Logic 7, only the bounce in real time work (off time will produce some silences as if the virtual Ivory memory could not work in that mode).
    But the guys working on it are really nice and helpfull.
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    @Another User said:

    insomnia, divorce, psychiatric hospital, bankrupt, and then prison.

    Bankrupt - hardly.And only prison if they dont do it [:D]
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    @Crystal said:

    I don’t expect from VSL such a library.

    ...there is no legato work to achieve with a piano...


    true, but I'm yet to see a digital piano or sampled piano that can handle string harmonics, such as the ones used in Bartok's Mikrokosmos. Hold down a note or cluster, without allowing it to speak - and then strike (staccato) related notes elsewhere on the keyboard. The undamped strings will resonate in sympathy. Pretty cool, but hard to record.

    That I'd like to see...

    PB
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    would love to have that one one day !
    Sure it will be done in the next few years
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    @Another User said:


    The undamped strings will resonate in sympathy. Pretty cool, but hard to record


    Can we just record that feature ? Combinations seem just...

    Infinite.

    First the soft player needs to detect all qualified un-muted notes (strings free), and then deduce all harmonics from all possible keys, or combinations of keys...

    Talking about nightmare, you beat me Peter... I give up.

    I won’t compete...


    I see it more like a specific processing engine to achieve this, based on samples or not.

    Probably not so unthinkable...
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    @Another User said:

    I mean I have a fairly old 2.4 Ghz with 1 Gig Ram, but if that would be suitable enough for playing classics, this would be interesting.


    Just to let you know, Ivory is for Mac only right now.
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    Well theres a hell-uva a GROUP BUY going on at Northern Sounds at the moment, for the new 24bit, GS3 PMI Old Lady (Steinway, 1920's).

    Its reached its upper discount tier, so you can pick it up right now for $80, instead of the normal RRP of $200.


    Has the idea of a GROUP BUY discounting scheme ever been mooted here ??
    You know ... if 80+ people sign up, offering a discount of 60% or so.
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    @Peter Brown said:


    true, but I'm yet to see a digital piano or sampled piano that can handle string harmonics, such as the ones used in Bartok's Mikrokosmos. Hold down a note or cluster, without allowing it to speak - and then strike (staccato) related notes elsewhere on the keyboard. The undamped strings will resonate in sympathy. Pretty cool, but hard to record.

    That I'd like to see...

    PB


    Yeah, good one... Exactly... in that context.... did anyone around here ever play ona PROMEGA 3? I would love to know whether this comes closer to what Peter mentioned.... I mean with molecular modelling.... [*-)] ts ts... I mean physical modelling... well you know what I mean... I did not have a chance to play one, but I would really love to hear what some of you did think of it in comparison with sample libraries....

    I think it was 256 polyphony on the promega, which alone is quiet nice, but question remains on harmonics and what they really achieved there....

    (Hell, living on "the island" has it's disadvantages) [[;)]] [:D]
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    @drewbuchan said:


    Has the idea of a GROUP BUY discounting scheme ever been mooted here ??
    You know ... if 80+ people sign up, offering a discount of 60% or so.


    I must admit, I never heard of such in terms of SW purchase, but sounds interesting.... however...60%? ...is that a real world figure? Hard to believe....