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Last post Thu, Dec 13 2007 by DaveTubaKing, 11 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Dec 09 2007 11:24
by DaveTubaKing
Joined on Fri, Feb 27 2004, London, Posts 770

The ultimate aim of this project is to realise a performance using exclusively VSL. The MP3s linked below are not VSL but I thought some people here may be interested in how this project was going.

 

Last year I completed the initial typesetting of Khaikosru Sorabji’s Jami Symphony using Sibelius. 733 pages of A2 score averaging about 40 staves up to a maximum of 62. I have now however created a performance of the whole piece using Sib5 and Sounds “Essentials” and there recently released “Choral” Sounds which I have found works well in this symphony which uses a large double chorus extensively but wordlessly throughout.

For those familiar with the new Sibelius 5 the playback configuration consists of seven instances of KP2, five for the orchestra and two for the choir with every slot filled. There are also three instances of VSL one for two octave tuned gongs and the other two in the last movement. One for an important solo violin and the other for the solo Baritone which I substituted with the VSL bass trumpet which has some nice subtle vibrato.I have uploaded the MP3s of the four movements to megaupload as follows:1st movement 1:34:47 (86.81MB)

2nd movement 19:46 (18.1MB)

3rd movement 1:58:57 (108.91MB)

4th Movement 43:07 (39.48MB)
About four and a half hours all told. The chorus doesn’t sing in the relatively short 2nd movement.This is only a very basic rendition to give an idea of what Sorabji’s extraordinary music sounds like. I post them only for those who may be curious, and after five and a half years on this project I thought I ought to have something to show for it.There are long stretches of ravishing music. IMO as good as any large scale chorus and orchestra works of the 20th C. Sorabji described the piece as Gulistan to the nth degree and is therefore of his tropical hothouse genre. The scoring is almost exactly two full symphony orchestras. There’s a Bass Oboe, a Contrabass Sarrusophone, two octave tuned gongs, two harps, piano and organ. The strings are always ten parts occasionally 18 or 24 parts. The chorus is always 8 parts occasionally 12, 16 and 32 parts, the latter particularly in the monster third movement.I now have to edit the score into a performable version and produce parts by which stage (about two years?) I hope VSL’s choral cube will be out and I can get stuck into a proper performance with VSL. Anyways for those curious please delve in.   David    Edit - you can now listen to it by direct streaming from this link http://sorabji-archive.pro2share.com/
David Carter https://sorabjiorchestralmusic.wordpress.com/
https://www.youtube.com/...UCoEithAEjsd4IBViwsfQFwQ

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Posted on Sun, Dec 09 2007 17:04
by Nick Batzdorf
Joined on Tue, Apr 29 2003, Los Angeles, Posts 2546
What is KP2?

(Strange reaction, I know, but that was the one thing I don't follow...)
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Posted on Sun, Dec 09 2007 23:06
by Sandpiper
Joined on Wed, May 28 2003, Cumbria UK, Posts 74
Nick Batzdorf wrote:
What is KP2?

(Strange reaction, I know, but that was the one thing I don't follow...)


Kontact Player 2. The main playback engine of Sibelius 5
Posted on Mon, Dec 10 2007 02:14
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

I want to hear this but do I have to install their software?  Can we just download the mp3s?

Posted on Mon, Dec 10 2007 08:53
by DaveTubaKing
Joined on Fri, Feb 27 2004, London, Posts 770

yes William you can just download the MP3s you don't have to install any software. I've been told it takes about ten minutes to download all four files.

David Carter https://sorabjiorchestralmusic.wordpress.com/
https://www.youtube.com/...UCoEithAEjsd4IBViwsfQFwQ

W10 Pro (64bit), Z390 Aorus Pro wifi MB, Intel i7-8700K s.7 GHz, Corsair 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3000MHz, Samsung 970 EVO M.2, 2 x OCZ Agility 3 480GB SSDs, Sibelius 8.4.1, Symphonic cube, VEPro7, MIRPro, Focustite Scarlett Solo, Nvidia GeForce GT 710 2GB GDDR5
Posted on Mon, Dec 10 2007 11:47
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1138
William wrote:

I want to hear this but do I have to install their software?  Can we just download the mp3s?

 

You have  to type in these three letters next to the download button in the higher right corner.

Posted on Mon, Dec 10 2007 12:14
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1138

I made the mistake to download the first movement. Now I can't stop listening anymore, but I HAVE TO WORK!

I'm really looking forward to your VSL renderings. Sibelius 5 does a really OK job performing these samples once you have all the rules set. 

Posted on Wed, Dec 12 2007 05:15
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Wow!  Dave tubaking is a maniac.  And that is the highest compliment I can give.  I really am fascinated by this. It is very weird and interesting music. I need to study this but it will take several years.   It is a huge undertaking and extremely worthwhile. Congratulations on doing this.

Posted on Thu, Dec 13 2007 03:06
by Angelo Clematide
Joined on Thu, Sep 08 2005, Posts 1139
DaveTubaKing wrote:
1st movement 1:34:47 (86.81MB)
2nd movement 19:46 (18.1MB)
3rd movement 1:58:57 (108.91MB)
4th Movement 43:07 (39.48MB)
  

Mama mia, that's quite something !!!

I am still listening. I may say something about it so circa in march 2008, when I am thru with it.

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Posted on Thu, Dec 13 2007 17:38
by PaulR
Joined on Mon, Dec 22 2003, England, Posts 2371

This is insane stuff and quite good David. I'm still on the first movement.
Posted on Thu, Dec 13 2007 21:37
by DaveTubaKing
Joined on Fri, Feb 27 2004, London, Posts 770

respect for dipping your toes guys - hang on in there, endings are particularly good.

David Carter https://sorabjiorchestralmusic.wordpress.com/
https://www.youtube.com/...UCoEithAEjsd4IBViwsfQFwQ

W10 Pro (64bit), Z390 Aorus Pro wifi MB, Intel i7-8700K s.7 GHz, Corsair 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3000MHz, Samsung 970 EVO M.2, 2 x OCZ Agility 3 480GB SSDs, Sibelius 8.4.1, Symphonic cube, VEPro7, MIRPro, Focustite Scarlett Solo, Nvidia GeForce GT 710 2GB GDDR5
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