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Last post Mon, Dec 31 2007 by William, 16 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Dec 14 2007 08:23
by magates
Joined on Thu, Aug 14 2003, Los Angeles CA, Posts 484
The Composer Collective wants you!

Here are a few of the reasons to join:

1. Our members have access to a vast network of resources:

Orchestrators, Synthestrators, Music Editors, Copyists, Mixing Engineers and others are now just a phonecall/email away! Supplied with your requirements and budget we can custom-tailor a team to meet all your needs -- at no additional cost to you.

2. Our members are notified of work opportunities as they arise:

We provide job leads that are unique and in some cases, exclusive. Auditions are private and based on your previous work or spec demos.

3. As a member you have the opportunity to share in our 5% Finder's Fee Reward System.

When you have a lead that you don't have the time or inclination to pursue, simply bring it to The Composer Collective -- we'll secure the job and you'll get 5% of the project's budget, for doing nothing!

TO JOIN, simply log onto http://www.thecomposerco...tive.com/tcc/contact.asp
and sign up.

If you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to contact us.

Sincerely,

Matt Gates

Co-Founder of The Composer Collective
Posted on Sat, Dec 15 2007 04:03
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Is this a non-profit organization?

Posted on Sat, Dec 15 2007 06:04
by magates
Joined on Thu, Aug 14 2003, Los Angeles CA, Posts 484
Details of fees are given on a case by case basis but usually it is 5% of the creative fee, email me for more details if needed. Our goal is to help you secure work.
Posted on Sat, Dec 15 2007 19:17
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

EDIT - O.K., never mind, it is none of my business. Maybe this is legitimate. Sorry, I will just keep quiet.

Posted on Sat, Dec 15 2007 20:55
by magates
Joined on Thu, Aug 14 2003, Los Angeles CA, Posts 484
I wasn't aware you couldn't post something promoting your company; Certainly we aren't in direct competition with VSL. If the moderator(s) judge this posting to be against policy that's fine, delete at will.

William, please refrain from posting responses to my messages. I thought we had agreed to such? This is the third time I have asked, this time publicly, to not reply to my posts, since they are INVARIABLY negative and often stoop to petty personal attacks (i.e wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole). I no longer take offense to this personally since I notice you spread the same negativity toward practically everyone and everything on this forum.

Here is a bit of advice for you though (I think I mentioned this before). It's very easy to see the negative in any aspect of life, if you so choose, and just as easy to see all the benefits; it's all a matter of PERSPECTIVE. If you want to remain an unpaid/underpaid composer, which you have claimed to be, you just need to continue with your current thought patterns. My assessment is that you consciously or unconsciously want this situation to continue. I'd strongly suggest counseling, or at least reading a book like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Es...-unhealthy/dp/0968740901

Posted on Sun, Dec 16 2007 12:30
by PaulR
Joined on Mon, Dec 22 2003, England, Posts 2371
Matt Gates - while I've always enjoyed listening to your 'pretty' music, you are WAY out of line here. It strikes me that some of you kids on this forum have been brought up in a very enclosed and mollycoddled environment. You need to learn to roll with it all, or otherwise, as life goes on, you're going to find taking on problems more and more difficult.
Posted on Tue, Dec 18 2007 04:14
by Dar32
Joined on Fri, May 20 2005, USA, Posts 373
I'm not aware of the cacophony incursions which are eventual on daily bases. So please forgive me for interupting here. But I just Downloaded Willam Kersten's Symphony and am listening to it momentarily. What a masterful piece of work. I wish I have had the time to engage and listen to the masters that come before us. And pick up the essential fine points on how to achieve, thus eliminating a bordomed waist of time in which benefits all of us. William you can curse at me any time you wish. some people havn't figured out yet what the music buisness is all about yet. 100 million dollars will fruitful you a mere 100,000 thousand dollars after everyone gets paid. That won't even buy you a house nowdays. Anyone who has been down the road, with a mathematical brain can figure out a piece of work will remain forever and keep a name alive eternally. Kersten is such a loser he is in the midst of company as BACH / MOZART / BEETHOVEN / MALER / HOLST / Does anyone need anymore names of penniless loosers who never owned their own homes. I think William owns his house and is doing better than everyone else's pretentiousness. I cannot ever stop studying, for my mind will shut down with bordom. It's 2008 and no one on earth can explain why we use the 12 hour system on a watch. !
Posted on Tue, Dec 18 2007 04:26
by magates
Joined on Thu, Aug 14 2003, Los Angeles CA, Posts 484

I never said he wasn't a great writer.  Just a simple request not to bash me personaly and take a moment to look at the few things I have presented here in a postive perspective.   I guess I should just take his critique for what's it worth and ignore the personal barbs. 
Posted on Tue, Dec 18 2007 04:53
by Dar32
Joined on Fri, May 20 2005, USA, Posts 373
Matt
I took his bashing. And became aware of my weakness. The more important fact here is : There is only one William Kersten. So he has the leverage to converse with anyone. Its everyone's opportunity to turn it around with intelect. That is not hard to do with one person only. But the working world makes us forget sometimes. Happy Hollidays to everyone !
Posted on Tue, Dec 18 2007 17:09
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

thanks  RK.  Magates I am sorry if I came across too negative, and wish you good luck.

Posted on Tue, Dec 18 2007 18:15
by magates
Joined on Thu, Aug 14 2003, Los Angeles CA, Posts 484
Thanks for that, Bill.
Posted on Tue, Dec 18 2007 20:29
by Christian Marcussen
Joined on Mon, Nov 10 2003, Posts 1508
PaulR wrote:
Matt Gates - while I've always enjoyed listening to your 'pretty' music, you are WAY out of line here. It strikes me that some of you kids on this forum have been brought up in a very enclosed and mollycoddled environment. You need to learn to roll with it all, or otherwise, as life goes on, you're going to find taking on problems more and more difficult.

Woa? What did I miss...

Posted on Tue, Dec 18 2007 22:42
by Ivan P
Joined on Mon, Dec 23 2002, Posts 139

PaulR wrote:
Matt Gates - while I've always enjoyed listening to your 'pretty' music, you are WAY out of line here. It strikes me that some of you kids on this forum have been brought up in a very enclosed and mollycoddled environment. You need to learn to roll with it all, or otherwise, as life goes on, you're going to find taking on problems more and more difficult.
 

Hmmm I remember someone being recently banned for being WAY out of line...who was it? Oh but that was on another forum... ;)

Posted on Tue, Dec 18 2007 23:30
by PaulR
Joined on Mon, Dec 22 2003, England, Posts 2371
Ivan P wrote:

 

 

Hmmm I remember someone being recently banned for being WAY out of line...who was it? Oh but that was on another forum... ;)



Yes- and once again the British press today and most of the rest of this country as a matter of fact, agrees with me being 'out of line' . Quel surprise! I don't even look at that forum anymore, and haven't done so since that incident, because I can't stand to be harangued by shaven headed toddlers that look like fetuses.
Posted on Sun, Dec 30 2007 14:47
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1998
Hey William, did I hear you wrote a symphony? Wow, I gotta listen to that, that's a BIG accomplishment. Where can I download it?
Posted on Mon, Dec 31 2007 00:56
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5738

Hi Guy

Thanks for the interest - I would love to have you hear it.  It is on www.cdbaby.com/cd/kersten

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