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  • Vienna Special Edition with Logic HELP!

    I am having trouble using the special edition with Logic 8. Here is what I need help/clarification on: I have a VSL preset loaded into an audio object such as "Flute Preset". There is a channel splitter connected to the audio object with cables on channels 1-4. Do these channels correspond with the cells in VSL? i.e. Channel 1 = Cell 1A, Channel 2 = Cell 2A, Channel 3 = Cell 3A etc? I don't think that is the case because it's not working that way. I want to be able to put each instrument articulation (sustain, staccato, performance legato etc.) on a different channel so I can switch between them easily when entering my MIDI data. I want to do this with 1 audio object. I could use an audio object for each articulation but that would take way too much memory. I also tried loading all the samples into a Kontakt 3 player but I don't think the special edition will allow you to access them in this way. How can I assign my channels 1-4 from my channel splitter to recognize each articulation I need?

  • The whole idea of the Vienna Instruments sample player is that you can have as many articulations as you would like on a single MIDI channel. You can access these different articulations by assigning them to keyswitches or to the MIDI controller and MIDI controller values of your choice - - or even to speed - - wherein the speed of a passage can be set to determine the articulations. This is entirely different from older ways of working in which each different articulation was assigned to a different MIDI channel - - but it does accurately reflect the way music is written and played - - one does not, for example, have a staccato violinist and a legato violinist - - but one violinist who plays all kinds of different articulations. I strongly suggest looking at the tutorial videos available in the user area on the VSL website. (http://vsl.co.at/en/68/375/381/456.vsl)

  • I understand what you mean as far as it all being on 1 MIDI channel. I don't really use a MIDI controller with Logic so is it possible to set it up with different channels for different articulations like an older way of working? What would you suggest since I don't use mod wheels and key switches etc? Thanks again. I am new to the VSL Special Edition.

  • ...i hardly recommend to get used to this techniques.... itĀ“s so easy to work with keyswitches...for a start, take ready to play matrices.....the keyswitches allow you to switch all articulations in one pianoroll while you get along with editing your lines....it couldĀ“nt be more practical. if you want to do that in different midi channels you allways have to switch the piano roll editors while editing the same instrument..... what a mess and what a time killer....get rid of the splitters and start to know the possebilities of your new orchestra tool....

  • You don't necessary need a modwheel or a midi controller to trigger the articulations keyswitches. In Logic 8 you can easily draw modulation, velocity crossfades, exp curves etc.. with the pencil tool from the hyper editor in the piano roll. In this way you have total control and fine tuning if the track parameters.

    Remember, the best workflow is one midi track one VI. Follow the procedure explained in the video tutorials, it's the best, for my experience.


  • Hi jhinkel. As you will have gathered from these replies, the VI isn't designed to play different articulations or instruments on different MIDI channels and thus differs from most sample players. I agree with the advice about getting used to this new way of working - using a keyswitch, pitch wheel, mod wheel, playing speed or MIDI controller of your choice to change articulations will, once you get used to it, make your life a lot easier. However, if you want to continue to do things 'the old way' for a while, there is a way: the free (to registered VI users) Vienna Ensemble software lets you create a set-up of multiple VI's operating on different MIDI channels and is very easy to use. It has some nice features, including the facility to limit the VI's playing range and thus create keyboard splits, which is impossible within the VI itself. If you get stuck with anything the people who use this forum are very helpful, I'm sure they'll be happy to give you advice. Good luck!


  • You guys rock! Thanks for helping me as VSL Special Edition is very new to me. I am now using the key switch method and it is really fast!