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Posted on Fri, Feb 29 2008 21:34
by mushanga
Joined on Sun, Sep 17 2006, Posts 193
Hi,

I am considering purchasing the VIenna Special Edition package as an upgrade from the Opus 1 and 2 sample libraries. I am looking to do this for 2 reasons:

1) Better, more realistic sounds.

2) So I can use the sounds in Sibelius 5.

Are these reasons justifiable? With the Opus sample libraries, am I correct in saying I can't use them in Sibelius 5? Do you feel it would be worth my upgrading?

Thanks for any input.

Matt Taylor
Posted on Fri, Feb 29 2008 23:00
by Sergino Futurino
Joined on Thu, Dec 18 2003, Italy, Posts 652

Musically there is not so much a difference, but using of Vienna Instruments and Ensemble is much, so much easier for you (and your computer....)

Ciao

Sergino

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Posted on Sat, Mar 01 2008 12:54
by PolarBear
Joined on Sun, Jul 20 2003, Germany, Posts 1206

Re 1.) me thinks you won't upgrade here... sounds are the same but 24bit instead of 16bit. Sometimes less layers in the VI than in Horizon series. If you upgrade to VI Ext. and Plus libraries you get more variety than with Opus 1 & 2 with additional patches. Different workflow is considered to ease things though. Dunno anything about 2.)

PolarBear 

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Posted on Sun, Mar 02 2008 23:42
by mushanga
Joined on Sun, Sep 17 2006, Posts 193
Do you know whether i could use the opus samples within the vienna ensemble plug in if i were to purchase the vienna special extended package?? Or would i only just be able to use the vienna special edition sounds within the VE?

Matt
Posted on Mon, Mar 03 2008 10:04
by Conquer
Joined on Thu, Sep 28 2006, Posts 812

Hi Matt. Unfortunately you can't use the Opus samples within Vienna Ensemble as it's custom made to run Vienna Instruments only.

Posted on Mon, Mar 03 2008 10:20
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

If you want to use Opus with Sibelius, you will need to use a standalone of your sampler with Opus loaded, and route MIDI from Sibelius via a virtual MIDI cable.


With Vienna Instruments and Vienna Ensemble you can load your samples directly into Sibelius.


DG

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Posted on Mon, Mar 03 2008 17:22
by mushanga
Joined on Sun, Sep 17 2006, Posts 193
DG wrote:

If you want to use Opus with Sibelius, you will need to use a standalone of your sampler with Opus loaded, and route MIDI from Sibelius via a virtual MIDI cable.

 

With Vienna Instruments and Vienna Ensemble you can load your samples directly into Sibelius.

 

DG



Would you mind explaining how I go about doing this? I thought the EXS24 sampler in Logic cannot be opened as a standalone..? Do you know whether the Opus sounds are Kontakt compatible? Thanks for your suggestions
Posted on Mon, Mar 03 2008 18:17
by mushanga
Joined on Sun, Sep 17 2006, Posts 193
I just realised..they would be kontakt compatible if i bought the kontakt license! stupid me
Posted on Mon, Mar 03 2008 19:02
by PolarBear
Joined on Sun, Jul 20 2003, Germany, Posts 1206

If you want to use the sounds with Kontakt there is still the possibility to buy a sidelicense for Kontakt. Contact VSL for that. Dunno about EXS24/Logic/Sibelius, perhaps there is also something possible.

PolarBear 

A zero can decuple an existing problem.
Posted on Mon, Mar 03 2008 22:42
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
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Posted on Tue, Mar 04 2008 19:06
by Conquer
Joined on Thu, Sep 28 2006, Posts 812

Hi all. Matt is right in saying EXS24 can't be opened as a standalone, it only works inside Logic. So if you were sending MIDI from Sibelius into Logic in order to play EXS24 samples, you'd have to to find a way of routing external MIDI data to the EXS4 track, which would require a working knowledge of Logic's 'Environment'. (Hate that word. It's nearly as bad as 'software'.)

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