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Upper register noise in string samples
Last post Sat, May 03 2008 by narco, 7 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Apr 21 2008 03:23
by Peregrine
Joined on Sun, May 28 2006, Scottsdale, Arizona, Posts 59

I had a piece that required using a cello section in the upper octave of the instrument range. I hadn't worked VSL that high before and was a little surprised when I started hearing a new noise in the samples. It's a hissing sound that notched out partially in the 300-360 range. I checked other OS 1 and 2 samples and the noise is a common occurence in most of them. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that's been successful in filtering out this noise.

Posted on Mon, Apr 21 2008 08:48
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
Peregrine wrote:

I had a piece that required using a cello section in the upper octave of the instrument range. I hadn't worked VSL that high before and was a little surprised when I started hearing a new noise in the samples. It's a hissing sound that notched out partially in the 300-360 range. I checked other OS 1 and 2 samples and the noise is a common occurence in most of them. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that's been successful in filtering out this noise.

Please give a specific range, so that other users can check this for you. C4 is Middle C, to avoid confusion.



DG
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Posted on Tue, Apr 22 2008 00:09
by Peregrine
Joined on Sun, May 28 2006, Scottsdale, Arizona, Posts 59

As an example, insert a cello section patch of a sustained no vibrato note. I think D5 is the highest note in the instrument range, and I start hearing the offending noise around G4. I honestly hadn't noticed it before. One of my customers pointed it out. She said she heard something odd in the strings of a concerto I'd finished. I put up a patch, and she zeroed right in on it. I think its more noticeable at higher dynamic levels and volume, which makes me think its a resonance that was recorded with the samples.

Posted on Tue, Apr 29 2008 18:17
by maavsl
Joined on Tue, Oct 23 2007, Posts 17

I too have noticed this noise - in exactly the same instrumentation and range.

Posted on Tue, Apr 29 2008 23:04
by Peregrine
Joined on Sun, May 28 2006, Scottsdale, Arizona, Posts 59

I tried sweeping a cello loop and was somewhat successful in notching out the noise, but not without significant impairment of the underlying cello sound. When I have some time, I'm going to see if Z-noise is more effective.

Posted on Wed, Apr 30 2008 09:32
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

The only hissing I hear is the sound of the bow on the strings. Can you post and example of the sound, if it is something else?

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
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Intensity
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Posted on Sat, May 03 2008 13:36
by narco
Joined on Mon, Apr 28 2008, Posts 1

yeah I think you're talking about the noise of the bow on the strings, which is what cello's sound like. Possibly more so when you are close to them

narco

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