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Last post Sun, Jun 15 2008 by Mahlon, 26 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Jun 11 2008 16:22
by drew buchan
Joined on Sun, Nov 27 2005, Posts 243

 Just arrived. Loading as I type.

Posted on Wed, Jun 11 2008 18:22
by ThomasM
Joined on Sun, Nov 25 2007, Visby, Sweden, Posts 24
Load faster, type more!

:-)
Posted on Wed, Jun 11 2008 18:35
by drew buchan
Joined on Sun, Nov 27 2005, Posts 243

 Loads of pfp ;-)

Sounds lovely, the few patches I've tried. 

Posted on Wed, Jun 11 2008 18:43
by ThomasM
Joined on Sun, Nov 25 2007, Visby, Sweden, Posts 24
Glad to "hear", have fun!

And don't forget to upload your demo!


:-)
Posted on Thu, Jun 12 2008 01:34
by Mahlon
Joined on Sun, Jan 08 2006, The decadent South, Posts 441

Let's hear it!!

Mahlon

Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 03:16
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
Concerning PFP's.........Are you sure there are PFPs?...They are NOT listed in the sample contents...........Sample contents only list many Crescendo/Diminuendo patches........PFP's are different from those..........HERB?

I very much want to be able to effectively mock-up Bernard Herrmann's sound....PFP's in sordino will do the trick.

SvK
I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
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Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 05:55
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1659

 I'll second this - the PFP's are critical!!!!!!!

Rob 

what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 11:18
by Revson
Joined on Sun, Mar 18 2007, Posts 42
svonkampen wrote:
Concerning PFP's.........Are you sure there are PFPs?...They are NOT listed in the sample contents...........Sample contents only list many Crescendo/Diminuendo patches........PFP's are different from those..........HERB?

I very much want to be able to effectively mock-up Bernard Herrmann's sound....PFP's in sordino will do the trick.

SvK

Sample Content (Dynamics) shows "Medium crescendo and diminuendo, 1.5, 2, 3, and 4 sec.; Crescendo-diminuendo, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8 sec". Maybe the latter is a pfp-like articulation? "Crescendo-diminuendo" articulations must be different from the keyswitched "crescendo and diminuendos" listed before them, and they sure sound like the kind of thing you're (quite rightly IMO) campaigning for.
Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 15:12
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1788

svonkampen wrote:
Concerning PFP's.........Are you sure there are PFPs? PFP's in sordino will do the trick.
SvK
 

Content of the "Dynamics" folder:

(for all Instruments! Violins - Doublebass) 

VI_mu_dyn_me_Vib_1.5s 

VI_mu_dyn_me_Vib_2s

VI_mu_dyn_me_Vib_3s

VI_mu_dyn_me_Vib_4s

VI_mu_dyn_pfp_Vib_2s

VI_mu_dyn_pfp_Vib_3s

VI_mu_dyn_pfp_Vib_4s 

VI_mu_dyn_pfp_Vib_6s 

VI_mu_dyn_pfp_Vib_8s

VI_mu_dyn_fp_Vib  

VI_mu_dyn_sfz_Vib 

VI_mu_dyn_sffz_Vib 

________________________________ 

Beat

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Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 15:16
by JBacal
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Posts 1210

Also each pfp has 2 velocity layers.

Best,

Jay

Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 15:54
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME............thanx soooooo much team Vienna!!!..Ordering NOW!...THANX!

SvK
I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
MacPro 2x3Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 16 Gig RAM, 10.6.2, Metric Halo 2882, Logic 9
Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 16:07
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
Foe even more expression...try velocity crossfading between the 2 layers of the PFPs......Thanx Again ;-)

SvK
I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
MacPro 2x3Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 16 Gig RAM, 10.6.2, Metric Halo 2882, Logic 9
Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 16:39
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
ORDERED IT...OverNight Delivery..I have Chamber so FREE Extended ;-)........awesome...SvK
I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
MacPro 2x3Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 16 Gig RAM, 10.6.2, Metric Halo 2882, Logic 9
Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 20:37
by JT3_Jon
Joined on Fri, Jun 04 2004, Palmdale CA (1 hour north of LA), Posts 469
I LOVE the sound of the pfp dynamic patch, just so expressive, and I'm sad its not in the original Chamber strings. :-( How do you guys replicate the pfp dynamic in Chamber strings I?
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Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 21:12
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1788

JT3_Jon wrote:
I LOVE the sound of the pfp dynamic patch, just so expressive, and I'm sad its not in the original Chamber strings. :-( How do you guys replicate the pfp dynamic in Chamber strings I?
 

X-Fade legato- or sustain- samples just as long you want to have it Big Smile

Beat 

www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 21:33
by JT3_Jon
Joined on Fri, Jun 04 2004, Palmdale CA (1 hour north of LA), Posts 469
Yeah, thats how I'm currently doing it, but for fun tried to A-B this method vs the pfp patch and it doesn't come CLOSE to the expression in the pfp patches (especially the short ones). Maybe I'll try overlapping the cres-decres patches....
Epic Prog rock music using VSL samples - http://www.aeonsatori.com

System specs: Mac Pro 5,1 3.33GHz 12 core 48GB RAM
OS 10.11.6 Cubase 8.5 Vienna Ensemble Pro 6.0.27022(64-bit)

PC: Core i7-2600 32GB Ram, Windows 8, Vienna Ensemble Pro 6.0.17011(64-bit)
Posted on Fri, Jun 13 2008 21:35
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1659

This solution is 'ok' - but not as convincing as the pfp's.   Some the best patches for all libraries - really breathes life into sequences.

Anyone going to post the Chbr's pfp's????Wink 

Rob 

what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:58
by drew buchan
Joined on Sun, Nov 27 2005, Posts 243

Why wasn't pfp included in Chamber Strings I ? Is this an articulation not normally associated with unmuted chamber music? 

Was there a musical rationale for the decision, or a business decision? 

Posted on Sat, Jun 14 2008 17:11
by Jack Weaver
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Tucson, AZ, Posts 391

I"ve had VSL libraries since 2004 and in that time they have listened both to their library  content and their customers. The end result is that their technique in sampling instruments has improved. In fact, they have driven the level of the industry higher.

The main reason some articulations are not present in some libraries is that we all are learning how to do this stuff better - evolution of the art and craft of sampling.

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2010 Mac Pro 12-core. 3.46GHz, 64 GB RAM, OSX 10.12.3, Logic Pro X 10.3.1 ,VEP5, SSD system drive, etc.

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Posted on Sat, Jun 14 2008 20:30
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
The Violin 8 sec PFP...is a knock-out....the vibrato "grows"....ALSO......I'm guessing here but it seems you guys have pre-eq'd these puppies :-) If I'm not mistaken a lot of that nasty 2k stuff is gone (nice....or am I wrong?)..........NOTHING in this library "hurts" the ear...Very little EQing neccessary...IMPRESSIVE!

SvK
I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
MacPro 2x3Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 16 Gig RAM, 10.6.2, Metric Halo 2882, Logic 9
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