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Problems Installing Vienna Special Edition and Special Edition Plus
Last post Wed, Apr 29 2009 by cm, 10 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Aug 06 2008 00:39
by I Like Cynic
Joined on Mon, Jul 28 2008, Mitchell, Posts 5

Hello, I have just purchased the Vienna Special Edition and Special Edition Plus bundleto be used with Logic Pro 7 for Mac. Following the instructions I have registered them both and installed them onto a harddrive. However the next step in the instructions is to go into the Directory manager and organise the folders you want to use so as to cut down on loading times etc. However when I do so what I see in my directory manager seems a little different to what I see on the directory manager in the tuition videos. All I see is ;

/Volumes/my hard drive's name 

/volumes/my hardrive's name/100 SpecialEdition

/Volumes/my hard drive's name/101 SpecialEditionPlus

 and that's it. So I don't see how I can organize it. I checked my hard drive and I noticed that instead of there being things like "violin" etc etc I have the two folders for Special Edition and Plus, and inside just 'specialEdition001.dat' etc 

 I tried to just go into Logic and see what would happened and at first it started going through a lengthy scanning process which caused the spinning beach ball of death to appear, after a while I did a force quit, now If I try to go into logic it doesn't scan at all, and I cannot see any way of opening Vienna  in the Logic arrange window. 

 So can anyone help me on this? I am very keen to get on with making music and would appreciate any help I receive.

I am using a macbook pro, Logic 7, mac OS X 10.5.4 and a lacie 320 GB hard drive (If that helps) 

 Thanks in advance,

 John 

Posted on Sun, Aug 10 2008 15:36
by mattseed
Joined on Thu, Aug 07 2008, Posts 7
Hi Mate. The problem you have had with your directory and seeing the files as 'specialEdition001.dat' instead of instrument names etc. Did you solve this at all....only i have the exact problem and have tried for days to find out why. The guys at VSL told me to look at the Directory video but that doesn't tell you how to solve it, that just assumes this isnt a problem.


Driving me mad, any help would be great.

matt
Posted on Sun, Aug 10 2008 17:07
by Conquer
Joined on Thu, Sep 28 2006, Posts 812

Hi there - after installation it's normal to see a list of files with names like SpecialEdition001.dat, SpecialEdition002.dat (etc.) inside numbered folders on your hard drive. Don't mess with these files - they are the building blocks of the libraries, you're not supposed to re-organise them. The instrument names appear elsewhere. I won't say more since I have no experience installing VI collections on a Mac (I use PC), but if you re-read your product manuals you should get the info you need. Failing that, other Mac users here will be able to help, as will VSL support if you explain your problem to them precisely.

Posted on Mon, Aug 11 2008 03:22
by I Like Cynic
Joined on Mon, Jul 28 2008, Mitchell, Posts 5

Hey Mattseed,

 After a lengthy session with the guys at VI (who were VERY helpful) I was told that the special edition is a bit different from the big collections and that the information comes up differently, so I heard what we are seeing is normal. I guess the fact that the SE are smaller collections means we don't really need to organize them so much in the directory. But that's a rookie guess. Hope this helps. 

 My problem was solved btw thanks to Paul from VI, the dude's a warrior. 

Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2009 02:17
by bwherry
Joined on Wed, Apr 22 2009, Los Angeles, CA, Posts 4
I just installed and have the same deal -- lots of SpecialEditionxxx.dat files. I'd still like to split out the samples over many drives to improve disk streaming performace if possible. I just don't know what instruments are in what .dat files. I guess I could use the Directory Manager to just point to one .dat file at a time and see what instruments are available? (newb, obviously) Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Brian
Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2009 08:03
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9093

 welcome I Like Cynic and bwherry,

basically there should be no need to spread the special edition across more drives - every somehow modern computer and drive is enough to stream this library sufficiently ...

in case you really like to, just move the content (the .dat files) to any convenient location and then run the directory manager to make VI / VE familiar wit the new locations (delete all old references, then add the new ones, best using drag & drop from a finder)

make sure no VI /VE is loaded or open when doing so and no vsldaemon is running - rebooting before recommended.

 

most important (spinning beach ball) is to repair permissions on your system volume after an installation or update (disk utility).

second: check in AU manager if VI /VE is actually validated - if not, validate manually.

 

inserting VI / VE into a logic track is like with any other AU plugin (VE = multi)

hth, christian

and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2009 14:49
by bwherry
Joined on Wed, Apr 22 2009, Los Angeles, CA, Posts 4
Thanks for the note, Christian. My previous experience with the East West platinum orchestra library was that of putting strings on one drive, brass on another, woodwinds on another, etc. (using eSATA II external drives). This way during dense tutti sections one drive doesn't get hit really hard and there's less potential for dropouts. I'll see how I do with the default VSL setup of everything on one drive, knowing I can always try moving things later if needed, using the Directory Manager to tell VSL where to find stuff. I only wish the .dat files had names indicative of what sample content (instrument section and/or articulations) was actually inside them...

Cheers!

Brian
Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2009 14:58
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

bwherry wrote:
Thanks for the note, Christian. My previous experience with the East West platinum orchestra library was that of putting strings on one drive, brass on another, woodwinds on another, etc. (using eSATA II external drives). This way during dense tutti sections one drive doesn't get hit really hard and there's less potential for dropouts. I'll see how I do with the default VSL setup of everything on one drive, knowing I can always try moving things later if needed, using the Directory Manager to tell VSL where to find stuff. I only wish the .dat files had names indicative of what sample content (instrument section and/or articulations) was actually inside them... Cheers! Brian
 



Don't forget that with East Worst you have to stream twice or three times as many samples, if you use more than one mike position.


DG



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Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2009 15:32
by bwherry
Joined on Wed, Apr 22 2009, Los Angeles, CA, Posts 4
DG wrote:

Don't forget that with East Worst you have to stream twice or three times as many samples, if you use more than one mike position.


DG




That's true. But I only use one mic position, along with an external convolution reverb. (standard operating procedure for VSL, eh?)

B
Posted on Wed, Apr 29 2009 17:23
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9093

bwherry wrote:
putting strings on one drive, brass on another, woodwinds on another, etc
 

indeed this could make sense if you have the super package and are using huge amounts of data ... our experience is that with even having loaded 24 GB 2 sATA drives are sufficient (strings and soemthing on one, woodwind and brass on another)

christian

and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
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