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Some Brushwork with Vienna Jazz drums
Last post Sun, May 03 2009 by synergy543, 14 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Nov 19 2008 20:03
by Marko
Joined on Mon, Dec 01 2003, Posts 184

This piece utilizes Vienna jazz drums.

 Pick Up Sticks

I used brushes mostly throughout this piece with a few measures of sticks (which are obvious at the tail end). In addition, I used Vienna upright bass, alto sax, and tenor sax. (All are downloads. I purchased Vienna Suite just for the drums)

Please give it a listen and let me know your thoughts.


Posted on Wed, Nov 19 2008 21:47
by ct1961
Joined on Sat, Dec 15 2007, Posts 438
Hi Marko. Sounds really good- just too short!.. Colin
Posted on Thu, Nov 20 2008 18:36
by steff3
Joined on Thu, Nov 13 2003, Posts 268
Great piece, sounds terrific :)

Seems to be a nice drum kit - but somehow that was to be expected :)
Posted on Fri, Nov 21 2008 15:41
by Marko
Joined on Mon, Dec 01 2003, Posts 184

Thanks Colin. I know it's short, but I consider a two minute jazz piece long enough. The thought of making an extended jazz piece with all those notes makes my hair stand on end. I would obsess too much over the drums in particular. All those notes!

Thanks steff3.


Posted on Fri, Nov 21 2008 22:26
by Mihkel
Joined on Fri, May 09 2003, Posts 8
Sounds very nice indeed, the only comment I would have is that the saxophones have a bit too much reverb for my taste, but I quess that's a matter of taste, really. Keep up the good work. Mihkel
Posted on Sun, Nov 23 2008 03:19
by Marko
Joined on Mon, Dec 01 2003, Posts 184
Thanks Mihkel.
   I found the brushes a little too forward in this mix and I realized I used the close samples instead of the room samples. I substituted the room samples and the swishes sound better to me.

   I'll have to listen to the saxes some more. I'm still getting a grasp of Altiverb.

Posted on Sun, Nov 30 2008 23:38
by Banquo
Joined on Sat, Apr 09 2005, Dublin, Ireland, Posts 395
Very nice indeed. Good job!

What are the velocity layers of the instruments?
Posted on Wed, Dec 03 2008 00:02
by marnix
Joined on Tue, Mar 16 2004, Vienna, Posts 1015

 For our Jazz Drums Collection, we actually recorded up to 7 velocities (pp, p, mp, mf, f, ff, always adding occasional ppp or fff where it seemed appropriate to provide a more in-depth rendering of eventual sonic and accoustic varieties) for each hit-type, along with multiple alternations, playing positions and (mostly speed-controlled) repetitions.


This approach - i.e. paying closer attention to a serious variety of articulations, while still capturing the individual dynamic range of a specific drum or cymbal, as opposed to stubbornly record and map even all 127 possible velocity layers for only very few single hits  - turned out to better complement the way we personnally prefer to work when creating sample-based drum tracks, especially for Jazz music.


By the way, our new Jazz Drums Tutorial Video and a couple of Demo MIDI files are already available for download...


Cheers and keep swinging,


Posted on Sun, Dec 07 2008 16:58
by Marko
Joined on Mon, Dec 01 2003, Posts 184
Thanks Robert.

 I think Mrx summed it better than I could. Some of the patches have seven layers to them.

  The ride cymbals are  particularly nice. The velocity layering of the samples permits you to ride the cymbal and get a wider, soft splash while you are executing the ride. It's the best ride cymbal  emulation I have come across.


Posted on Thu, Jan 08 2009 20:06
Joined on Sat, Mar 05 2005, Posts 31

It seems that you have downloaded the jazz drums and now it's operationnal for you. On my side, I have a problem when I launch the installation. The process is interrupted near cab 16. (I've tried to download Three times with the same results...). Have you this kind of trouble ?


Musicalement votre
Posted on Thu, Jan 08 2009 23:10
by Marko
Joined on Mon, Dec 01 2003, Posts 184

 I had two incomplete cab downloads during the process and as a result the installation initially went awry. I had to download two files again. I don't recall which cab files they were, but eventually I downloaded all of them successfully.

Be sure the cab files are all approximately the same size.

I think the last cab file is significantly smaller than the others, but the rest should be about the same size.

Good luck.


Posted on Mon, Apr 27 2009 08:45
by popion
Joined on Sat, Sep 01 2007, france, Posts 5


do you know how or when I could get again the jazz drums collection please ?


Posted on Mon, Apr 27 2009 13:44
by ct1961
Joined on Sat, Dec 15 2007, Posts 438

VSL have stated they have no plans to sell Jazz Drums but with the imminent release of the updated Vienna Suite, maybe we'll see it being offered again as an enticement.


Posted on Sun, May 03 2009 06:14
by synergy543
Joined on Fri, Apr 01 2005, Posts 135

That would cinch the deal for me.

[drum solo......cymbal splash]

Greg (Gregory D. Moore)
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