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Posted on Mon, Mar 02 2009 13:13
by mdovey
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2009, Posts 17
Well, we are now at the start of March - are there any further details on Vienna Imperial (expected availability date, pricing, system requirements particularly disk space needed etc.)?

thanks,

Matthew
Posted on Wed, Mar 04 2009 09:39
by fabio.angeleri
Joined on Tue, Feb 12 2008, Posts 11

I'd like to hear some demos just for making me an idea of how this instrument will sound.

I'm still waiting

Posted on Tue, Mar 31 2009 18:20
by mdovey
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2009, Posts 17
Well, we are about to touch April - any further news re price and availability (which has now changed on the web page to just read "Spring")?

Matthew
Posted on Sun, Apr 19 2009 07:36
by el-russo
Joined on Wed, Jul 11 2007, Posts 69

I wonder what kind of size this lib should have and how much memory it will need, speaking of over a hundred velocities.

Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 07:57
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9136

 i can unveil as much as all visitors on NAMM and Musikmess have already seen:

due to a new compression method and streaming engine you can have loaded and play one distance (out of three) with all velocity layers on a 4 GB XP32 core2duo 2.5 GHz computer.

christian

and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 13:47
by cgernaey
Joined on Mon, Apr 04 2005, Detroit-Michigan, Posts 1062

Christian,

Is this piano a completely seperate software host interface etc?  Meaning it uses its own software interface and not VI or VE3 pro at all?

If so, do you all plan on doing the "network" style eventually that most of us rely on such as VE3?

Thanks,

Maestro2be

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, 128GB RAM, AMD 3970X 32-core
Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme, Radeon RX 5500 XT
Studio One 5.1.1, Cubase 10.5, Nuendo 10
RME Multiface 2, All NVMe SSD Drives (OS & Samples)
Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 14:29
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622

 Vienna Imperial is powered by a complete new software, which will be full compatible with Vienna Ensemble 2 & 3.

best

Herb

Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 14:49
by cgernaey
Joined on Mon, Apr 04 2005, Detroit-Michigan, Posts 1062

 Herb,

Thank you for the quick answer, this is great news!  I can't wait to get it!

Maestro2be

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, 128GB RAM, AMD 3970X 32-core
Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme, Radeon RX 5500 XT
Studio One 5.1.1, Cubase 10.5, Nuendo 10
RME Multiface 2, All NVMe SSD Drives (OS & Samples)
Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 14:57
by clemenshaas
Joined on Sat, Dec 01 2007, Cologne, Germany, Posts 119
cm wrote:

 i can unveil as much as all visitors on NAMM and Musikmess have already seen:

due to a new compression method and streaming engine you can have loaded and play one distance (out of three) with all velocity layers on a 4 GB XP32 core2duo 2.5 GHz computer.

christian

sorry, but i can´t wait to know... will my mac g5 quad be fast enough? and if you say one needs 4 GB of RAM for all velocity layers, does that mean that all adressable RAM is eaten up by imperial? so that practically no (very few) additional vsl-instruments can be used on my computer? 

or will the newly designed engine be able to adress separate additional RAM apart from the RAM used by the "old-school" vsl engine? my mac is equipped with 12 GB of RAM, so this would of course be quite nice for me. 

Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 16:25
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9136

 can't comment on mac versions (since i didn't have any on my dsk so far) - thinking about how it is done on windows i'd assume it will use its own memory space.

memory - well, on the 4 GB PC ~ 3.2 GB have been left to the system, 1 GB was used by windows, and we have not been able to load all three mic positions into the remaining 2.2 GB - sorry, but i can't remember how much memory exactly one mic position needed.

christian

and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 16:55
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622

In standalone mode the piano needs approximate 1.65 GB RAM.

There are several options included to load lighter versions (for example loading without softpedal samples, or without release samples).

And of course you have the option to minimize RAM usage using our Sample Optimize feature (same proceder like in all Vienna Instruments).

best

Herb

Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 16:56
by clemenshaas
Joined on Sat, Dec 01 2007, Cologne, Germany, Posts 119

it would be of some interest for me if you (someone at vsl) did some testing on macs too before releasing, it´s a matter of can-i-buy-or-not (immediately, i definitely will eventually), and i´d love to (having waited for this for longer than you may imagine).

it´s not that important to me (to whom?) to have all micings loaded at the same time, and if imperial really adresses its own memory, well, this would be just great for me. i could have my 4 gigs for old-school vsl, say 2 gigs for imperial, leaving 6 gigs for system, logic and exs (and the other software instrument-"company-who-must-not-be-named" - a**holes). fine for me.

my credit card is shivering with anticipation - up to you now :)

Posted on Mon, Apr 20 2009 17:09
by clemenshaas
Joined on Sat, Dec 01 2007, Cologne, Germany, Posts 119

thanks for answering, herb. our messages crossed.

i assume memory requirements will not differ much whether using standalone- or plugin-mode?

i appreciate the options to reduce memory requirements with the methods you mentioned above, but i would not dare to cut a shining diamond until it fits into my pocket :)

1.7 gigs would not be such a pain as i was afraid of, but the issue of imperial adressing separate memory from vsl and logic or not still is of some importance to me. 

besides, what about sound-demos?

Posted on Tue, Apr 21 2009 23:54
by Football
Joined on Tue, Apr 21 2009, Manchester by the Sea, Posts 12

I'm also very interested in hearing demos and wondering if it's still definitely on schedule for spring 2009?  I know the March date was changed and am hoping that it won't be pushed further out.

The bar needs to be raised for sampled pianos.  Hoping this Vienna Imperial takes it to a whole new level.

Posted on Wed, Apr 22 2009 08:03
by el-russo
Joined on Wed, Jul 11 2007, Posts 69

Will there be a download version with 40-50 velocities? Wink

Posted on Wed, Apr 22 2009 08:25
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9136

 no - you wouldn't want to download ~25 GB ;-)

and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Fri, Apr 24 2009 08:18
by arne
Joined on Sat, Feb 23 2008, Posts 15
cm wrote:

 no - you wouldn't want to download ~25 GB ;-)

Why not? I wouldn't mind downloading any size if that's make it a bit cheaper. E.g. my Kabel Deutschland modem has 32MBit/s, that's about the speed with which my DVD drive can copy data. It would even save me the torture of DJ-ing all those DVDs!

So, even if it's 250GB, a download version could be an option.

Posted on Fri, Apr 24 2009 11:00
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9136

 now i'm tempted to put such an amount of data online just to see if you are really finished in 107 minutes ;-)

start polishing your cable and prepare a fire extinguisher for your line

christian

and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Sat, Apr 25 2009 15:10
by arne
Joined on Sat, Feb 23 2008, Posts 15

Are you offering me a preview for the Imperial? Go for it :D

Posted on Sat, Apr 25 2009 19:14
by julian
Joined on Fri, Jan 07 2005, UK, Posts 720
arne wrote:
cm wrote:

 no - you wouldn't want to download ~25 GB ;-)

Why not? I wouldn't mind downloading any size if that's make it a bit cheaper. E.g. my Kabel Deutschland modem has 32MBit/s, that's about the speed with which my DVD drive can copy data. It would even save me the torture of DJ-ing all those DVDs!

So, even if it's 250GB, a download version could be an option.

Yeh, but as I'm sure you've found out the speed limitation is more often how quick the server can stream the data to you and if a thousand other purchasers were trying to download.....

Julian

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