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Last post Sat, Sep 12 2009 by Nick Harvey, 15 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Aug 30 2009 15:41
by stephank
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Berlin, Posts 80

I know it´s not the best way to talk on a company forum like this about other librarys, but as long as VSL does not offer an accordion library I hope this is gona be ok.

Does any one of you has experiences with the IRCAM Solo instruments accordion or can recommend a really good accordion or bandoneon sample?

I´m lookng for a not too clean rich sound which cn be used for some expressive tango-stuff. The IRCAM stuff sounds ok, but the Demos are not really what I´m looking for. If anyone of you has worked with this sounds I would love to hear it.

(In a perfect world) The sample should blend well with the VSL double-bass and the woodwinds.

All the best,

Stephan Kanyar

Posted on Mon, Aug 31 2009 19:40
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1137

EW Gypsy has a good Bandoneon, I use it for Tango stuff. Unfortunately it comes only with the Play engine which I really hate...

That's what I'm doing with it, check out "und zu entspringen...":

http://www.mathis-nitschke.com/GatnoTango/

Guitar and Bandoneon is Gypsy, most of the rest is VSL.

Posted on Tue, Sep 01 2009 07:45
by stephank
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Berlin, Posts 80

Hi Mathis,

thank you for your advice. I heard about gipsy but never checked it out.

I like the Bandoneon sample (was "ins licht fruehlingsbodenlicht der moose" also made with it?). I visited the EW side and have to say, that I unfortunately don´t liek the other instruments in the package too much 8of course a question of taste).

So I have to try to listen to some demos of the IRCAM Solo Instruments.

Anyway: Thank you for your help and good luck with your tango project (what is planed to happen with it?).

All the best,

Stephan Kanyar

Posted on Tue, Sep 01 2009 09:11
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1137
stephankanyar wrote:

(was "ins licht fruehlingsbodenlicht der moose" also made with it?).

I waited for you to ask... ;-)  no, that's a real Bandoneon.

Posted on Tue, Sep 01 2009 09:13
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1137
stephankanyar wrote:

good luck with your tango project (what is planed to happen with it?).

I hope to get it performed in some concerts next year and have some recording produced.

Please let me hear what you do.

Posted on Tue, Sep 01 2009 23:25
by stephank
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Berlin, Posts 80

In a perfect world the Bandoneon part would have been a sample :-)

I don´t know of the gipsy library really fits my needs. I guess I will go for the IRCAM stuff.

Right now I´m working on a theatre-music for the schauspiel-essen (wrote some accordion parts for it and need them to be produced... I guess I will book a player).

Congratulations for the work with Perceval. His work is really impressive. "Traum Im Herbst" was one oft he most touching theatre impressions I ever had.

If you are in essen in the next 5 or 6 week let me knoe. We can go for a coffee.

All the ebst,

Stephan

Posted on Tue, Sep 01 2009 23:28
by stephank
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Berlin, Posts 80

In a perfect world the Bandoneon part would have been a sample :-)

I don´t know of the gipsy library really fits my needs. I guess I will go for the IRCAM stuff.

Right now I´m working on a theatre-music for the schauspiel-essen (wrote some accordion parts for it and need them to be produced... I guess I will book a player).

Congratulations to you for working with Perceval. His work is really impressive. "Traum Im Herbst" was one oft he most touching theatre impressions I ever had. Will you keep working with him in Hamburg?

If you are in Essen in the next 5 or 6 week let me know. We can go for a coffee.

All the best,

Stephan

Posted on Wed, Sep 02 2009 07:42
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1137

Yes, I hugely enjoy the work with Luk, I'm very happy.

Well, your profile suggests you're living in Munich. As it is very unlikely that I make my way to Essen the next weeks why shouldn't we have a coffee in Munich?

Accordions: Don't forget the PMI Accordions. Still very good. But as you asked specifically for Bandoneon I didn't mention them.

Posted on Mon, Sep 07 2009 20:17
by Mark Schmieder
Joined on Mon, May 07 2007, Concord CA, Posts 207

I deleted most of my PMI and SamleTekk libraries; just not detailed enough (except for SampleTekk's marimba and renaissance recorders, and PMI's anvils and carillon, which fill some gaps not covered or not covered well by VSL).

For accordions, I highly recommend NUSofting Peti, which is based on FM technology. But you'll have to take some time with it, as it doesn't ship with any presets (at least on the Mac AU version). I made a few of my own for Italian Accordion, Indian Harmonium, etc.

Library-wise, Precisionsound has by far the most varied and detailed accordion samples these days. These have come around in just the last couple of years, so are not all that well-known yet. There is quite a variety of different sounds and styles. Their sale just ended, but they have sales frequently.

On the whole though, I am finding that the non-sample-based NUSofting Peti sits in the mix the best with Vienna Instruments winds, brass, strings, and percussion.

Posted on Tue, Sep 08 2009 07:38
by stephank
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Berlin, Posts 80

Thanks for your reply,mhschmieder. I will check them out. I ordered the IRCAM Solo Instruments (liked the accordion in the demos) and I´m pretty courious how it will work.

Mathis, I don´t live in munich anymore (moved to Berlin three years ago, never changed it on zhis site). Maybe our paths will cross some day. Would be fun.

All the best,

Stephan

Posted on Tue, Sep 08 2009 20:16
by Mark Schmieder
Joined on Mon, May 07 2007, Concord CA, Posts 207

Coincidentally, a brand-new accordion library has been announced today over at KVR, from best Service but the guy responsible is normally associated with Bela D so I don't know what that's about. I didn't see a direct link for more product info.

Anyway, this new library includes eight different types of accordions. It might be just what you're after. It is shipped in Kontakt Player format, so you don't have to own Kontakt already.

Posted on Thu, Sep 10 2009 12:30
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1137

The demos of the Best Service Accordions sound really good. The Bandoneon is very good. Maybe finally a chance to get rid of the crappy EW Play software.

Here's the stuff:

http://www.bestservice.de/detail.asp/en/plug_ins_vi_ethnic_voices/accordions/593059a84p125p40p130

Posted on Fri, Sep 11 2009 19:35
by stephank
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Berlin, Posts 80

The Demos sound really good. Anyway, my IRCAm stuff arrived yesterday and I´m pretty happy with it. Need the sound anyway before the 15th of September. Bad timing.

All the best,

Stephan

Posted on Sat, Sep 12 2009 13:08
by info_29410
Joined on Tue, Jul 24 2007, Spain, Posts 32

 Hi,

I am Eduardo Tarilonte, the producer of Best Service Accordions. As the product has been mentioned, I just wanted to show you a couple of videos which will be available soon in the official web site. They feature how a midi CC controls the bellows like a real accordion.

Totally out of the box.

Accordions Both Hands Bellows Expression Video (wmv)

Bandoneon Bellows Expression Video (wmv)

Best,

Eduardo Tarilonte
Composer|Sample Library Producer
http://www.eduardotarilonte.com
Posted on Sat, Sep 12 2009 19:33
by Nick Harvey
Joined on Tue, Apr 15 2003, Posts 118

I beta tested Eduardo's Best Service Accordions and can heartily recommend it. Like all of his libraries - Spiritual WInd, Celtic Wind, Sampled Landscape and Retro Flute - it's top notch and I'm sure before long will become the 'go to' accordion library. 

I have Gypsy and the PMI library and they pale into insignificance next to Eduardo's product. 

Nick

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