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VST3 Program Change Limitation
Last post Wed, Oct 07 2009 by koassistant, 14 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 08:58
by koassistant
Joined on Tue, Jul 01 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 28

It's a real bummer that the VST3 plugin does not passthrough Program Change data. That would have been nice. Not quite ready to kick the Giga Machines to the curb. I hope that will be implemented at some point.

Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 10:50
by scorefrog
Joined on Thu, Sep 24 2009, Posts 62
Does the AU Version transfer program change data (to lets say kontakt instances with many Programs in a Bank) ?
I assumed it would!! That would be the only workaround I can actually see for the 16 Midi-Channels per Instance and 8 VE-Pro-Instances (128 Midi-Channel) Limit for AU. (For Au its obviously less of a luxus feature than for vst3 at least generally)
Mac Pro 5.1 (mid 2010) Quad core / 48 GB RAM / El Capitan 10.11.6 / Velocity Duo PCIe Card with two 500 GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD mounted/ 2 Slave PC with Win 7 and 16 GB RAM each / Logic 9.1.3 / Cubase 6.5
Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 11:02
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

 The VST2 version works with program changes though, so try that out.

DG

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Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 11:16
by scorefrog
Joined on Thu, Sep 24 2009, Posts 62
And the AU Verison =/ ? . . .
Mac Pro 5.1 (mid 2010) Quad core / 48 GB RAM / El Capitan 10.11.6 / Velocity Duo PCIe Card with two 500 GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD mounted/ 2 Slave PC with Win 7 and 16 GB RAM each / Logic 9.1.3 / Cubase 6.5
Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 12:38
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

scorefrog wrote:
And the AU Verison =/ ? . . .
 

Don't know. Try it.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 12:44
by scorefrog
Joined on Thu, Sep 24 2009, Posts 62
oh yeah thanks! I can't unfortunateley try the demo version because of having no elicenser key ... (Am still struggling with buyning cubase and leave my so much loved Logic Template with all the cool Space Designer Reverb Settings and EXSes)
Mac Pro 5.1 (mid 2010) Quad core / 48 GB RAM / El Capitan 10.11.6 / Velocity Duo PCIe Card with two 500 GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD mounted/ 2 Slave PC with Win 7 and 16 GB RAM each / Logic 9.1.3 / Cubase 6.5
Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 14:06
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

scorefrog wrote:
oh yeah thanks! I can't unfortunateley try the demo version because of having no elicenser key ... (Am still struggling with buyning cubase and leave my so much loved Logic Template with all the cool Space Designer Reverb Settings and EXSes)
 

If you are definitely buying Cubase, then you can use that dongle. if not, then you have to stump up for the dongle separately.

The Cubase reverb is every bit as good (and some say better) as Space Designer, and there are other compensations, like being able to use multi-timbral instruments, VST3, stereo panning and advanced MIDI features. the downside is that you will have to build anything but the MIDI side of your template from scratch. However, any VSL stuff can be stored in the vi-frame format, so that should save time.

It would also be a good idea to transfer the EXS stuff to Kontakt, because then you can use it with any sequencer and on any platform.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 15:01
by scorefrog
Joined on Thu, Sep 24 2009, Posts 62
What a luck Steinberg kept on supporting OSX (after that break years ago)) Many Thanks DG! You convinced me! (=
Mac Pro 5.1 (mid 2010) Quad core / 48 GB RAM / El Capitan 10.11.6 / Velocity Duo PCIe Card with two 500 GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD mounted/ 2 Slave PC with Win 7 and 16 GB RAM each / Logic 9.1.3 / Cubase 6.5
Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 15:49
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

scorefrog wrote:
What a luck Steinberg kept on supporting OSX (after that break years ago)) Many Thanks DG! You convinced me! (=
 

I also have heard (but not checked) that after all those years without, there is now a Cubase demo. I'll check that up for you.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, Sep 30 2009 21:49
by scorefrog
Joined on Thu, Sep 24 2009, Posts 62
Oh great, but I used to be a Cubase User for many years anyway until I changed to Logic (1997 or so) when Cubase was no option for a Mac and ... wow the years passed by quickly and its time to go back to the roots (-; Thx
Mac Pro 5.1 (mid 2010) Quad core / 48 GB RAM / El Capitan 10.11.6 / Velocity Duo PCIe Card with two 500 GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD mounted/ 2 Slave PC with Win 7 and 16 GB RAM each / Logic 9.1.3 / Cubase 6.5
Posted on Tue, Oct 06 2009 07:36
by brett
Joined on Fri, Aug 19 2005, Australia, Posts 87

Hi Martin.  Loving VEP thus far.  It's a relief to move on from FXT.

I'm wondering if you have made any progress implementing program changes for the VST3 version of VEP, or is this simply a limitation of the VST3 spec and a change that we're unlikely to see in the next update?

Thanks - Brett

Posted on Tue, Oct 06 2009 21:57
by koassistant
Joined on Tue, Jul 01 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 28

Same here. Hope that will be implemented...

Posted on Tue, Oct 06 2009 22:03
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1760

The next update will not include this, we have to make some research to see if it is even possible. The VST3 standard has simply removed the common MIDI program changes, in favor of a new patch selection system.

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Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Wed, Oct 07 2009 02:25
by koassistant
Joined on Tue, Jul 01 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 28

how about a CC# to PC conversion within VEPro to work around that?

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