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VE PRO DISCONNECT FUNCTION NEEDED
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Posted on Tue, Oct 20 2009 18:50
by dlpmusic
Joined on Sun, Jan 19 2003, Posts 286

Please...please add this.....

When Logic crashes none of the VE PRO's on the mac release their connections.  This means we have to reload just because it does not disconnect.  The pc's over the network do release but not the MAC.

On a friends machine running Nuendo......when Nuendo crashes NOTHING disconnects.  He has to reload his entire template which takes more than 30 Minutes.

Please had a disconnect button so if our sequencers crash we can simply hit the disconnect and leave everything loaded and quickly reconnect our sequencers.

Thanks

Posted on Tue, Oct 20 2009 20:30
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12890

Hi dlpmusic,

did you try the new "Decouple" button? It does exactly what you´re asking for. My hosts don´t crash that often, so I haven´t really tried it in this special case....

Please let me know if that helped!

Best,

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Oct 20 2009 20:50
by dlpmusic
Joined on Sun, Jan 19 2003, Posts 286

Yes.... everything is in decouple mode on my Logic system and my friends Nuendo system.  If the sequencer crashes many do not release.  This is a huge problem.  If there can be a way to force VE PRO to disconnect all with a button per se then one can go about and just reload the crash sequence very quickly.  As it stands now it is a big problem and huge time killer.

Posted on Tue, Oct 20 2009 22:00
by beatpete
Joined on Thu, Oct 01 2009, Posts 80
"Please had a disconnect button so if our sequencers crash we can simply hit the disconnect and leave everything loaded and quickly reconnect our sequencers"

Agrreed, if for some reason Cubase locks up or doesn't quit porperly, VE Pro thinks it's still there and can't disconnect.
Comp1: Windows 10 64 bit,AMD 3950x 32 core, 64gb ram,, Radeon HD5450 graphics, RME Digiface, Steinberg UR824 and MR816x (X2)
(connected to Digiface), Cubase 10.5 64bit
Comp 2: Windows 7 64bit, I5 3450,32 gb ram, VEPro 7
Posted on Wed, Oct 21 2009 03:32
by superjeezus
Joined on Thu, Dec 04 2008, Posts 4
Yes, I have made the exact same request, and will repeat that now with a *pretty please with sugar on top*!

In my case, Digital Performer 7 crashes sometimes and orphans my VE Pro instances. I need to quit out of both VE Pro servers and reload my meta files to get going again. The disconnect button would save me a lot of time and trouble.
Late 2008 8-core Mac Pro, 10.5.8, 32GB RAM, DP7, Logic 9
Posted on Wed, Oct 21 2009 21:24
by DanJo
Joined on Mon, Jan 30 2006, Posts 18

yeah! althoug the new build is much better for logic users and "decouple" makes even work at all - please implement a dsconect buttom in the server window!! I also requested it via email. Pleaseeeee do!!!!! :-))

THX Dan

Mac Pro 8 core, Logic 9, Motu hardware
Posted on Mon, Jan 25 2010 10:23
by paaltio
Joined on Sat, Jan 20 2007, Helsinki, Finland, Posts 20

I'd like to add my vote for this one, a disconnect function would be great.

Posted on Mon, Jan 25 2010 14:34
by am_27761
Joined on Mon, May 07 2007, Posts 34

Same here, one more vote for a disconnect button!

Posted on Mon, Jan 25 2010 15:45
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 547
And mine.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.2 6-Core i7 Mac mini, 64 GB RAM. macOS 11.4
Posted on Mon, Jan 25 2010 20:35
by magnumpraw
Joined on Tue, Oct 04 2005, Los Angeles, Posts 143

Yes, I strongly add my vote to this request. This is our top headache right now. VEPro is such a fabulous piece of software, but when DP crashes some of our VEP instances still think they are "connected" even though we run them "decoupled". As a result, when we relaunch the DP project it won't connect to the "already connected" VEP instances and it requires us having to close VEPro and reload the palette which is a 15-20 min ordeal.

It would be wonderful to have a button that forces VEP to disconnect without having to close the instance so that in the event of a DAW crash, it doesn't require a complete VEP reboot of all the slaves.

Thanks!!

Posted on Tue, Jan 26 2010 16:00
by ThomasM
Joined on Sun, Nov 25 2007, Visby, Sweden, Posts 24
Posted on Thu, Jan 28 2010 00:39
by Tripit
Joined on Thu, Jan 30 2003, Hollywood, Ca., Posts 350

+1 here as well

Posted on Thu, Jan 28 2010 15:17
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12890

Hi everybody,

this feature is already on our to-do-list and we hope that it will be integrated in the next major update of VE PRO.

Best,

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Jan 29 2010 10:42
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1762

Hi all,

I just put the "Force disconnect" feature when deleting an instance into VE Pro. It will appear in the next update.

--
Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Fri, Jan 29 2010 10:50
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

Martin, that's good news. Does this mean that if the sequencer crashes and closes, the button will be on the server interface, or will we have to open each VE Pro instance and manually click all of them?

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Fri, Jan 29 2010 10:57
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1762

This is handled from the VE Pro server window.

--
Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Sun, Jan 31 2010 19:31
by mattzen
Joined on Wed, Feb 12 2003, Los Angeles, Posts 29

I am dying for this feature as well.  I have a slave computer that has 12gigs of ram and is loaded up with 11.3 gigs of samples basically covering a majority of my template.  It takes about 50 minutes to fully load my metaframe on this machine.

 My main machine is quite stable, however it does crash from time to time.  When it does, because I don't have a force disconnect feature on the server, I am forced to unload and exit that whole 11.3 gigs of samples which seems to take about 10 minutes to fully unload that metaframe without force quitting.  Loading that meta frame back up takes almost 50 minutes.  All of this just because we cannot manually disconnect projects when we want/need to.  I have at least 1 hour stolen from my day if I have a crash now.  I don't ANYONE that could deem that as acceptable.

I am a very busy composer and do NOT have time to reload my full orchestra every time my main machine has a crash.  This is the whole reason why I've went with VE Pro in the first Place!!!

 I also think that somehow connecting the force disconnect to the delete project function would do nothing to help this situation.  Think about it.....The whole point is that I do not want to have to delete or unload the VE Pro Projects when my Main Machine crashes.  I need to disconnect without deleting or unloading ANYTHING from my metaframe.

Thanks you all at VSL for your groundbreaking products.  I couldn't make music without you!

Best,

Matt Mariano

Posted on Sun, Jan 31 2010 20:39
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
mattzen wrote:

I am dying for this feature as well.  I have a slave computer that has 12gigs of ram and is loaded up with 11.3 gigs of samples basically covering a majority of my template.  It takes about 50 minutes to fully load my metaframe on this machine.

 

What? 50 minutes? I would look into this, if I were you. My template is about 24GB, and it takes about half an hour, and I don't have the fastest memory. I really don't think that it should take more than about 15 minutes for yours.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Mon, Feb 01 2010 19:33
by mattzen
Joined on Wed, Feb 12 2003, Los Angeles, Posts 29

Thanks for your reply DG.  My slave machine is a new i7 quad processor with triple channel memory under windows 7.  My metaframe is very complex but maybe it should load faster, however..... I believe that to be irrelevant to the core of this situation with all due respect.  

My main concern is that if we get a force disconnect feature, it should not be attached to deleting a project.  I need to disconnect a loaded project and keep it loaded for best workflow and time managment.  If my main machine goes down, I would like to be able to just go to the VE PRO server select each project, force disconnect on each, and have them ready to be reconnected immediately once my main machine is back up.  Is there a technical problem that would prevent this from being possible?  if so, i would be curious as to what it may be.

Thank you!

-matt mariano

Posted on Mon, Feb 01 2010 20:07
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
mattzen wrote:

Thanks for your reply DG.  My slave machine is a new i7 quad processor with triple channel memory under windows 7.  My metaframe is very complex but maybe it should load faster, however..... I believe that to be irrelevant to the core of this situation with all due respect.  

 

Sorry, I didn't mean to derail the discussion, but I think there is something wrong with your system if it loads so slowly. If it is of any help maybe I could open the metaframe on my system (if we have the same Collections) and see how long it takes. Then we would know if it is the metaframe or your system. Send me a PM if i can be of any help.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
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