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VE Pro slows down basic functions of Logic! - SOLVED
Last post Mon, Jan 11 2010 by DG, 14 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Jan 10 2010 19:41
by christophertin
Joined on Fri, Sep 05 2003, Posts 44

Hi there,

I've noticed a significant slowdown in Logic when VE Pro is running on my slave computer.  Here's what I have

Master Computer:

Logic 9.02

Octocore 2.8

16 GB RAM

8 Instances of VE Pro

Slave Computer:

Octocore 2.8

8 GB of RAM (3.7 used for samples)

8 Instances of VE Pro, each hosting a single instance of Kontakt 3.5

When the Master is connected to the Slave, they both seem to slow each other down.  I get a lot of spinning beachballs every time I try to save my Logic session, or every time I try to delete any MIDI or audio tracks in Logic.  What's going on here?  Anyone else getting this?

Great software, nevertheless.... just hoping that we can iron out some of the kinks.

Posted on Sun, Jan 10 2010 20:53
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

 Do you decouple VE Pro before saving?

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Sun, Jan 10 2010 21:18
by christophertin
Joined on Fri, Sep 05 2003, Posts 44

No... but I shouldn't have to, right?  Likewise, it gives me a spinning beach ball every time I try to delete a MIDI track in my Logic arrange window.

I've noticed, though, that the fewer instances I have open, the less this becomes a problem.

Posted on Sun, Jan 10 2010 22:31
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
christophertin wrote:

No... but I shouldn't have to, right? 

 

Try it.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Sun, Jan 10 2010 23:09
by christophertin
Joined on Fri, Sep 05 2003, Posts 44

Yes, decoupling the instances means that I don't get the spinning beach ball when I try to save the file or delete a track in my arrange window.  As I said before, the problem lessens the fewer coupled instances I have.

But that's not the point.  If that just means that I have to decouple every instance of VE Pro every time I want to do something routine, like save my session or delete a track in the arrange window, that's not really a practical solution.

Posted on Sun, Jan 10 2010 23:36
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
christophertin wrote:

Yes, decoupling the instances means that I don't get the spinning beach ball when I try to save the file or delete a track in my arrange window.  As I said before, the problem lessens the fewer coupled instances I have.

But that's not the point.  If that just means that I have to decouple every instance of VE Pro every time I want to do something routine, like save my session or delete a track in the arrange window, that's not really a practical solution.

 

Why don't you just work with VE Pro decoupled and then recouple it before you close the project?

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2010 00:19
by christophertin
Joined on Fri, Sep 05 2003, Posts 44

Because I can't work with VE Pro decoupled.  VE Pro is running all my samples from my slave to my master, so what you're saying doesn't make any sense.  If I work with VE Pro decoupled, then I don't hear any samples being played.  And recoupling it before I save the project makes no sense either.  Did you mean the reverse?

Even if you did mean the reverse, that still doesn't solve the core issue here.  VE Pro, when instantiated, creates a slowdown of some of Logic's base functions.  I'm hoping someone from VSL will chime in and let me know if this is a known issue.

Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2010 01:14
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
christophertin wrote:

Because I can't work with VE Pro decoupled.  VE Pro is running all my samples from my slave to my master, so what you're saying doesn't make any sense.  If I work with VE Pro decoupled, then I don't hear any samples being played.  And recoupling it before I save the project makes no sense either.  Did you mean the reverse?

 

 

Why don't you hear anything when VEP is decoupled? All it should do is stop saving all plug settings every time you save the logic project. Are you sure that you are decoupling and not disconnecting?

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2010 04:21
by christophertin
Joined on Fri, Sep 05 2003, Posts 44

Ah!  Interesting.  Now we're on to something.  Yes, I thought you had meant 'disconnect'.  I'm not sure what this discoupling feature is... where would I find it?

Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2010 08:08
by christophertin
Joined on Fri, Sep 05 2003, Posts 44

Ahah!  I found the Decoupling button, clicked it, and it worked great.  Thanks, DG--well reasoned, and well solved.  Props to you.

Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2010 08:27
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
christophertin wrote:

Ahah!  I found the Decoupling button, clicked it, and it worked great.  Thanks, DG--well reasoned, and well solved.  Props to you.

 

 Glad to have helped.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2010 18:37
by RobbinsEgg
Joined on Tue, Apr 12 2005, Los Angeles, CA, Posts 35

Hmmm, where is this decoupling button?

the Preserve button?  that doesn't fix the Logic function slowdown problem for me.

Mac Pro 3.5 Ghz Xeon E5
64GB Ram | OS X Big Sur
Logic 10.6.1
Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2010 19:00
by RobbinsEgg
Joined on Tue, Apr 12 2005, Los Angeles, CA, Posts 35

oops, realized I didn't have the laest version!

downloading now.....

Mac Pro 3.5 Ghz Xeon E5
64GB Ram | OS X Big Sur
Logic 10.6.1
Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2010 19:47
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

It's on the server interface where you click connect, AFAIK.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
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