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VePro - build 4881 (Ok to use)
Last post Sun, Aug 29 2010 by civilization 3, 30 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Jan 27 2010 18:15
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

I may have a break in the action this afternoon - but not for more than a day and DON'T want to be 'down' for days sorting thru (or uninstalling and re-installing previous builds) - How have you 'power users' made out with this latest build (4881).  Thanks for any advice.  I have VePro and Play - working together now on a farm unit and of course -don't want to introduce NEW wrinkles there.

Many thanks for your frank advice.

(not my day for software - I am not sure why the first paragraph above is there?????   Please read starting at second paragraph - sorry.)

Rob

what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Thu, Jan 28 2010 08:49
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9115

it seems you pasted the text from a word document and some hidden tags ha´d become visible ... edited the HTML ...

 

basically the 4881 is safe for use.

by sheer chance i found a bug in the windows installer yesterday evening related to directory manager, but this should only affect users installing VE PRO the first time under a different user account as they had earlier installed another vienna application.

christian

and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Thu, Jan 28 2010 11:38
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

I installed the update and LOST my midi capability - nothing I could do would solve it.  Finally uninstalled it on Main PC (W7) and three farm units (x64) - reinstalled - 4686.  Now midi working again.   I get midi from my RME Multiface.

(FYI - with latest build - I could 'play' the farm unit patches with mouse and hear sound.   I could 'see' midi activity from Main puter - just no connection from main daw to farm units - until rolled back to 4686.)   :(

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Posted on Sun, Jan 31 2010 21:29
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1807

That happened to me, no midi received over the network, with the previous build, 47-something. I had some corruption in the application, preferences, something and wasn't sure if it wasn't that, but I rolled back after uninstalling and didn't try again. I'm OSX.6.2, Cubase 5.1.1, MacPro to MacPro.

MacBook Pro 16,1: 2.3 GHz 8-core i9
64GB 2667MHz DDR4
OSX 10.15.7
VE Pro 7.1056, Cubase Pro 11.0.0
Posted on Sun, Jan 31 2010 22:05
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

Yea - rolled back to 4686 and back in biz.  I know the realities of build/fixes - one or two things solved - always the possibility of new issues.  That's reality.   Kind of a pain - but all of us are use to it - not exclusive to VSL.  If fact IMHO they are one of a few companies that have fewer issues on release of software - ofcourse there is always the 'play' issue - but let's not bring that up - we are having such a good day now. :)

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Posted on Mon, Feb 01 2010 13:03
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173
Some things were changed in the network communication between 4686 & 4881. It sounds to me like you're using different versions on the master and slave systems, which could explain MIDI events not passing through properly.
Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Feb 01 2010 14:43
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

I don't think so.

Two things.

1.  All master and slaves had EXACT version/build of vepro installed (with 4881 on ALL machines - midi did not work.)

2.  midi did not work WHEN only running VEPRO on  Master.

Unistall update - rolled back to 4686 (again - ALL machines) - all midi communication work as designed.

what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Tue, Feb 02 2010 23:01
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1807

I had the update installed on master and slave as well. I have only ever seen that in that build. Rolled back to official version, midi is fine.

MacBook Pro 16,1: 2.3 GHz 8-core i9
64GB 2667MHz DDR4
OSX 10.15.7
VE Pro 7.1056, Cubase Pro 11.0.0
Posted on Wed, Feb 03 2010 04:51
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

Ok - I was starting to think it was just me. :(

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Posted on Wed, Feb 03 2010 18:25
by koassistant
Joined on Tue, Jul 01 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 28

Same Issue here. Also some interesting overload impact on the CPU's after a couple hours of operation. Old version works fine.

Posted on Wed, Feb 03 2010 18:38
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

Hey info when you say 'old' are you referring to 4686?  That's the one that works here.  Thanks.

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Posted on Wed, Feb 03 2010 19:07
by koassistant
Joined on Tue, Jul 01 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 28

Yes, back to Build 4686. Works great again!

Posted on Wed, Feb 03 2010 19:34
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

OK - same here - 4686 works as design.

what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Thu, Feb 04 2010 18:29
by jvdieks
Joined on Thu, Aug 20 2009, Posts 41
In my 1 day experience 4881 is the best version yet... very good latencies also
Posted on Thu, Feb 04 2010 19:16
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

Ah rats - I was AFRAID you would say that.   So wish the 'midi ghost bug' (at least on mine and a couple of posters here) gets solved so I can try it.  The latencies improvement is of course KEY.

jvdieks - were you running Play before and can you still?   I am maybe one of the few who is successfull running Play on a farm unit in vepro - just want to be sure on 4881 hasn't changed that (I know the official position of VSL is that Play is NOT supported but....:)

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Posted on Thu, Feb 04 2010 19:43
by jvdieks
Joined on Thu, Aug 20 2009, Posts 41
no... i primarily use kontakt with it and a couple of other vstis...

but i send my midi to the plugin version on the master.. I hardly ever use the normal midi inputs..

I noticed a big improvement when setting latency to 0... that's the main thing i like about this update.
Posted on Sat, Feb 06 2010 16:22
by oliverheuss
Joined on Sat, Jul 09 2005, Hamburg/Germany, Posts 89

Hi Rob,

please allow me to chime in:

You have PLAY running in VEPRO?

How did you do that?

Did I miss anything in a thread?

That´s sensational!

Thanx for response.

Cheers

Oliver

Posted on Sat, Feb 06 2010 17:22
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654

One Caveat - still crashes from 'time to time' - but for now (until Play Pro) - I can live with it.  Do a search on this board - there is a suggestion (forgotten how but I think it was login as 'administrator' (on PC).  Good luck (you mileage may vary.)

what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Sat, Feb 06 2010 17:24
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
Rob Elliott wrote:

One Caveat - still crashes from 'time to time' - but for now (until Play Pro) - I can live with it.  Do a search on this board - there is a suggestion (forgotten how but I think it was login as 'administrator' (on PC).  Good luck (you mileage may vary.)

 

Hmmmmmm. I haven't been able to get a usable GUI for PLAY for quite a few versions now. I'm convinced the problem is because of the way VE Pro embeds the GUI. The same problem occurs with PLAY and J-Bridge, which also embeds the GUI. I sense a pattern. Geeked

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Thu, Feb 11 2010 09:51
by benbartlett
Joined on Thu, Apr 26 2007, Posts 160

I have big problems with 4881. Please see my post:

http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/24476.aspx

Thanks.

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