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Posted on Tue, Mar 30 2010 00:18
by mplaster
Joined on Fri, Jan 12 2007, phoenix | az | usa, Posts 217
markus_30526 wrote:

But, it seems to me an unfinished product. Only A und U vowels? What about O, I and E 

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well, technically "I" is a dipthong ("ah-yee") so there wouldnt be a way to vocalize/"play" a sustained "I" sound, really.

Unless you are meaning short stacattos like the already included Ta, Ra, Pa, Sa, etc. At which point if you wanted every possible combination of consonants and vowels and phonetics you'd be describing a Wordbuilder, which the VSL never claimed to be. 

Anyhow, im both impressed and disappointed in some of the demos thus far (no offense intended VSL and its composers) The trills especially didnt sound that stunning to me. Regardless,. even if this library were merely sustained Ah's and Ooh's, it'd still be amazing quality.. But i guess it;s kinda still to early to tell. .  . .

-michael

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Posted on Tue, Mar 30 2010 02:43
by shakuman
Joined on Sat, Apr 21 2007, UK, Posts 161

 I already placed my order and I believe VSL team do their best Wink For me I don't bother about the demos cuz I trust VSL..Thanks Herb you usually do a great workYes.

Shakuman.

Posted on Tue, Mar 30 2010 06:25
by Jef de Corte
Joined on Wed, Sep 26 2007, Wichelen, Belgium, Posts 53

I am not convinced by the demo's either, and at more than double of the price than the EW Symphonic Choir (which includes WB, boys and solo voices) I was expecting something really stunning.

The "creepy" demo even almost sounds like the good old mellotron to my ears...

Posted on Wed, Mar 31 2010 17:33
by Sonophile
Joined on Thu, Jan 23 2003, Posts 133
shakuman wrote:

 I already placed my order and I believe VSL team do their best Wink For me I don't bother about the demos cuz I trust VSL..Thanks Herb you usually do a great workYes.

 

 Same thing here ! VSL Soprano is far better to many libraries so the choir is for "me" ! Big Smile

Mathieu Laprise
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Posted on Thu, Apr 01 2010 02:28
by ross.harris
Joined on Thu, Sep 13 2007, New Zealand, Posts 18

Can you tell me the vocal ranges of each voice please. That would be a factor in my purchasing the package?

Thanks,

Ross

Ross
Posted on Fri, Apr 02 2010 10:27
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1743
ross.harris_30748 wrote:

Can you tell me the vocal ranges of each voice please. That would be a factor in my purchasing the package?

Thanks,

Ross

Hi Ross

Checked it with the sustain articulation:

  • Bb3 --- C6  > Soprano
  • E3 --- F#5  > Alto
  • B2 --- C5   > Tenor
  • C2 --- E4   > Bass

Best

Beat Kaufmann

www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Fri, Apr 02 2010 20:17
by John In CC
Joined on Mon, Nov 23 2009, Cathedral City, CA, Posts 83

Looking forward to hearing it the finished product.  What is the best way to integrate with Sibelius?

Posted on Sat, Apr 03 2010 20:43
by temasterson_1870
Joined on Tue, Mar 25 2003, Posts 19

There's no ooohs in the standard library???? Thats like bringing out a string library and having no violins. 99% of the time people will just want ooohs and aaahs. I probably would have bought the standard library if it had the most commonly used articulations, but I'm definitely not paying £750 just to get some ooohs and aaahs.

 Sad 

Posted on Sun, Apr 04 2010 23:42
by SyQuEsT
Joined on Mon, Jan 13 2003, Quebec, Posts 617

I can see this :

  • Vowels “A” (aah) and “U” (ooh) as staccatos, sustains and Legato Performances, at 4 dynamic levels
  • Maybe, you read too fast ? Stick out tongue

    Mathieu Laprise
    Sonomax inc.
    Posted on Sun, Apr 04 2010 23:56
    by julian
    Joined on Fri, Jan 07 2005, UK, Posts 720
    SyQuEsT wrote:

    I can see this :

  • Vowels “A” (aah) and “U” (ooh) as staccatos, sustains and Legato Performances, at 4 dynamic levels
  • Maybe, you read too fast ? Stick out tongue

    I think Temasterson was making the point that to get the oohs as well as the ahs the extended library at a UK cost of £750 was required.

    Which is what the product page appears to indicate.

    Julian

    Posted on Mon, Apr 05 2010 22:53
    by Kevin Kliesch
    Joined on Tue, Jan 28 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 97

    I just registered my Standard Library and can't find the link to register the extended library for free (I'm a Cube owner).

    Will the code be emailed to me?

    Posted on Mon, Apr 05 2010 23:22
    by Kevin Kliesch
    Joined on Tue, Jan 28 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 97

    Scratch that question; I found it. You have to "buy" the extended library, then it shows a discount of $615.

    Posted on Sun, Apr 25 2010 09:58
    by Mark Schmieder
    Joined on Mon, May 07 2007, Concord CA, Posts 207

    Just a quick question, as I won't be able to install my copy until I get a new computer or hard drive (I'm too close to the edge right now):

    Is the download-only Soprano Choir fully contained in this full Choir edition, or were those different sample sessions and/or a different articulation set?

    I'm just trying to priotizie the order I handle projects in, as I love the dl-only library and bought the full standard+extended Choir Library last week, but don't want to waste time tracking stuff with the dl-only Soprano library now if I'm going to find that the sopranos in the full Choir edition sound a lot different (in which case I'll need to allocate time to compare more patches first).

    I think this question might help others who are dithering last-minute on whether to splurge for the full Choir edition as well (not my project prioritization issues, but details about the carryover/overlap/etc, of the dl-only Soprano library with the new full Choir DVD box).

    Posted on Mon, Apr 26 2010 04:15
    by Kevin Kliesch
    Joined on Tue, Jan 28 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 97

    I did an A/B of the free soprano choir against the retail soprano choir today (I bought the Vienna Choir last month), and from what I can tell, they are two completely separate samples/sessions.

    In fact, the original downloadable soprano choir is FAR superior to the Vienna Choir, IMO. When I bought the Vienna Choir, I was hoping that the rest of the sections (alto, tenor, bass) were going to be as good as the download version. Alas, I was not too happy with the production values in the retail version.

    Specifically: the download version has much more "gliss" between the notes than the retail version. Unless I'm missing something, the retail version just doesn't sound as authentic as the download version. (The retail perf-legatos and perf-legato glisses don't even come close to the perf-legatos of the download.)

    Posted on Wed, Apr 28 2010 21:33
    by AlistairL
    Joined on Thu, Feb 01 2007, UK, Posts 27

     Interesting, I'm finding that that the perf-legato on the retail version is smoother than the download version. In a project I did recently using the download choir, on each legato note the volume seem to "lurch" slightly on the change. Horses for courses I imagine. I haven't tried combining the two yet.

    Posted on Thu, Apr 29 2010 01:58
    by P_C
    Joined on Mon, Sep 24 2007, Norway, Posts 154

     HM interesting....so are you guys saying the Dload sopranos are not a part of the dvd version?

    Thats odd..since there is a discount? I like and use the dload version alot...and was kinda hoping that the rest of the sections were as good or even better.

    Could somone post a few short examples of a simple and plain legato phrase ,perhaps?

    I cant really tell whats what from the demos...in perticular the Males would be interesing to hear in more detail.

    Posted on Thu, Apr 29 2010 15:54
    by Trailerman
    Joined on Wed, Jun 14 2006, Manchester, UK, Posts 609

    Any more feedback on the choir would be very much appreciated ... especially with the special offer deadline looming.

    Many thanks

    Jules

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    Posted on Thu, Apr 29 2010 19:55
    by SyQuEsT
    Joined on Mon, Jan 13 2003, Quebec, Posts 617

     I'll register my copy tomorrow and do some tests too. I'm pretty sure VSL team are looking at your critics. Maybe it's not perfect right now but we should see something near in a future ! :)

    Have a nice day !

    Mathieu Laprise
    Sonomax inc.
    Posted on Fri, Apr 30 2010 07:55
    by Beat Kaufmann
    Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1743
    Pzy-clone wrote:

    Could somone post a few short examples of a simple and plain legato phrase ,perhaps?

    I cant really tell whats what from the demos...in perticular the Males would be interesing to hear in more detail.

    Trailerman wrote:

    Any more feedback on the choir would be very much appreciated ... especially with the special offer deadline looming.

    Hello

    I've produced some demos:

    • 1. Male-Voice-Section
    • 2. Download Choir < > Vienna Choir

    Please see here http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/25185.aspx

    Best

    Beat Kaufmann

    www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
    at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
    Posted on Fri, Apr 30 2010 21:04
    by P_C
    Joined on Mon, Sep 24 2007, Norway, Posts 154

     Aaah yes, thank you :)

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