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  • VSE Orchestral Strings Attack Issue

    VSE Orchestral Strings Attack Issue Hi everybody, I just bought Vienna Special Edt. I nocited that when I "Orchestral Strings" if I play with Piano Dynimics P or PP or MP I have a long attack in strings, which cannot help me for fast passage I obtain like a "wave" effect of strings. The perfect attact it would be like staccato, but I need to make legato or at least to avoid the "wave" effect in strings Can someone explain to me how to solve that problem? I use Notions SLE but even with cubase, if I play live I cannot avoit this defect The "wave" effect is less is I play in Forte F of FF , FFF but if I need a short attack in soft dynimics I can i DO? before buying Vienna ext or Plus I would like to know if i possible to solve it. Let's suppose to have 108 metronome, and you play a A major scale in lower octac of Violins if you play in 8ths you will understand the "wave" effect this defect i common in many Strings Library ( Garritan, EWQL, Miroslav etc. etc.) but in many Vienna demos the attack is solved, How shall i do??? Thank you in Advence

  • Hello Vasa!

    For fast passages the legato patch sounds better than the sustain patch. If you want a staccato attack, you could additionally add the staccato patch as a second cell to the legato patch. In this case I recommend lowering the volume of the second cell, because otherwise it would be very harsh.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Dear Andreas, first of all thank you for answering to me. Your soultion is usefull but partial solving, because if I i make Violins in DIV ( Divisi - separated voices ) I cannot use the legato preset. Is the Standar Extension solving that problem? or maybe the Plus Version? wouuld you indicate more solutions? Thank so much in advence Vasa

  • Hello Vasa!

    You can use two staves/tracks for the divisi violins and use legato for both of them.
    If you don't want that you can add a staccato patch as a second cell to the sustain patch (and lower the volume of it as explained above).

    The SE extended offers additional instruments to the standard collection.
    The SE PLUS offers additional articulations.
    All details about these products can be found here:
    http://vsl.co.at/en/211/261/314/183.vsl

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thank you again Andreas, I tried you suggetions and even more experiment but the defect remains. But I have been thinking about this. In the library is present the "legato" sample which has the better attack available, but is monophonic. why don't you spread and update where the legato sample (of course with differnt name ) can be use as polyphonic? Can you suggest me a DVD collenciont where I can find this kind of attack in order to overlay to my SE strings? thank you so much in advance Vasa

  • Hello Vasa!

    Our Orchestral Strings and Appassionata Strings collections offer a performance marcato articulation, which might be exactly what you need in this case.

    More details about these products can be found at the following locations:
    http://vsl.co.at/en/211/442/344/352/219.htm
    http://vsl.co.at/en/211/442/344/353/220.htm
    http://vsl.co.at/en/211/442/344/422/272.htm

    We are already working on a new legato mode, which can also be used polyphonic.

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Great!!!!!!! thank you

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    Hello again Vasa

    Just an addition to Andi's answer above. You will find the marcato-legato with nearly all VSL-instruments.

    You also get a harsh legato for example - with the solostrings which is even more aggressive than marcato.

    As an example of the marcato-articulation of the chamber strings:

    Grieg_Holberg_Suite_Praelude

    Listen to the piece from 2:16 - 2:22 (legato marcato within all the registers of the chamber strings)

    Best

    Beat


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/
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